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Samuel Doctorian: Vision of the Five Angels

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Rev Wayne, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Rev Wayne

    Rev Wayne Simplicity + Sincerity = Serenity

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    I notice in recent years, there has been a resurgence of interest in a piece written by a Dr. Samuel Doctorian, a Lebanese Christian and founder of California-based Bible Land Mission. The title of the article was "The Vision of the Five Angels," and first appeared in 1998, the year in which he was supposed to have had the vision. In the vision, five angels appeared to him, each bearing prophetic warnings of dire events taking place in various places around the world. I'm not sure how much interest there was in any of this in 1998; but I have noticed a resurgence of it in 2005, and pockets of interest continuing in it from time to time since that point.

    I write this piece, and start this thread, to urge all due caution to anyone who may have come across anything put forth by this man, for reasons which I shall explain. My first contact with Samuel Doctorian was in the late 60's, when he came as one of the evangelists invited to speak at Epworth Camp Meeting in Ninety-Six, SC, where I first gave my heart to the Lord and where I was later called to the ministry. During the camp, there were two services which stood out in my memory, one in which a young woman was supposedly delivered from demonic bondage, and another in which a woman was supposedly healed of lung cancer. I took them both as genuine--until some months after the camp, the minister of our church informed me that Doctorian had been brought up on charges of fraud in the state of Indiana. He also mentioned that after some investigation, they were pretty sure that the events at the camp meeting had been staged. I can't begin to tell you what that did to me. The experiences during those services, which at the time I had taken as genuine, had been so spiritually exhilarating. But those feelings were false. Having them taken away from me in that manner was extremely disheartening.

    So, to see a lot of people in a lot of places in Christian circles lending credibility to this account of seeing angels and receiving visions, is particularly disturbing. So I began to look into the matter, searching for anything I could find on the man, to see what had been going on with him during the intervening years since that first contact. Not surprisingly, I found this article from a newspaper in SC:

    My guess as to the "religious oriented mission" would be World Gospel Mission, through which Doctorian founded the organization he still heads, Bible Land Mission. I can't help but notice also that the organization at that time was headquartered in Missouri. So he ran into problems in Indiana; he ran into problems in North Carolina; not much of a stretch to assume he ran into problems in Missouri as well.

    Further investigation turned up this article from a South African News Agency:

    The stories on Doctorian are a mixed bag. There are many blogsites and forum sites which lend him a lot of credibility, but there are critics out there as well. The Seventh-Day Adventist site ran a presentation on end-times false prophets, and included him on their list with this comment:

    The comment appears to be erroneous--this does not seem to have been presented at any time by Doctorian in any "date-setting" manner, but rather, it appears to have been the date on which he first presented the "vision." Another site which has him in its sights is thepathoftruth.com. Problem is, when you look at their list, you find some strange inclusions that are also found there: Martin Luther, Martin Luther King, George Muller, Charles Spurgeon, John Calvin, and Andrew Murray. So it seems that even his critics have not always fared too well in trying to assess what may be the problem points.

    I notice also that there is a pattern of attributing to Doctorian the idea that his visions have been prophetic. One claim is that in the 1998 article, he "predicted the events of 9-11." That's a pure stretch of the imagination. For one thing, nothing in anything he wrote about the vision of these angels is tied to any specific dates or time frames. For another, there was nothing specific as to location in the particular prophecy about the U.S. to which this is attributed. Thirdly, the remarks were generalizations, describing calamities that were to come, particularly earthquakes, one result of which would be "skyscrapers collapsing." That's pretty far-fetched to take a generalization like that and telescope it into a "prediction of 9-11." You could as easily take Chicken Little's declaration of "The sky is falling!" and turn it into a prediction of the fall of Skylab!

    There are stories also of his having been "awakened" at 3 am and given a premonition of the tragic tsunami ten days before it occurred. I am not as familiar with the details of that one, but from what I have seen of it, it bears the same marks as the others: generalizations that are stretched beyond their limits. These stories all have one feature in common that stands out as well: not one of these things was ever claimed BEFORE the fact; instead, they were all matters of reinterpretation of his earlier comments AFTER the fact of occurrence.

    Even more bizarre are the titles of a series of three articles located online by Doctorian, detailing certain "visions" he says he received. The articles are all titled as "The First Letter of Samuel from Patmos," "The Second Letter of Samuel. . .," etc. The first one begins,

    The second begins,

    With those titles, and with those openings, clearly he is trying to associate himself and/or his visions with the apostle John, apparently in an effort to garner greater authenticity for them.

    End result: far too many documented instances of impropriety which, when coupled with attempts to claim more than can be verified for the things he wrote, constitutes ample enough reason to steer clear of this would-be prophet.
     
  2. Alithis

    Alithis argue all you can-JESUS is STILL LORD

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    did you ever meet the lady healed of lung cancer and speak to her first hand?

    or did you hear "evil report" and assume it was truth?

    'every evangelist has such reports multiplied against them.
    if they don't...then i would suspect them all the more."woe unto you when all men speak well of you.........."
     
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  4. Alithis

    Alithis argue all you can-JESUS is STILL LORD

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    Lol 7 angels of the seven churches.
    5 angels of five continents ..don't see a problem.

    This dilemma people create by their self imposed assumption that folks who are called to certain
    Ministeries are suddenly expected to be creatures of infallibility and so give them selves the right to be judge and jury of them is really sad.
     
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