In the second post of this thread, YOU stated the following:
And this is what I was replying to when I stated how that we must also remember that the main subject of the book of Daniel is Jesus. I feel that you missed that very important point in your opening remarks, and I really thought the list that Lueko provided was quite fitting for that point I made.
If you are going to insist that Jesus being the central topic of Daniel 12 is "off topic," then perhaps we have nothing further to discuss here. I hope you are not just here to "teach" us what we "really believe," because this forum is not a debate forum for that kind of purpose. Official Adventist beliefs teach that the book of Daniel is first and foremost about Jesus, and that includes any "overview" of Daniel 12. Infact, Daniel 12:1 mentions Jesus as the central Figure of all that comes after it. Thats why it isn't off topic for me to mention that fact, and for Lueko to back it up with scripture like he did.
It seems to me that you have a lot of RABBIT TRAIL RULES that the rest of us dont know about, and that we get surprised with as we go along.
I have not meant to offend nor deny the Christ is the center of ALL prophecy or any of the OT. Fact is the whole of scripture IS all about Christ and we should never lose that fact. That being said, the focus, without overlooking the aforesaid, is on Daniel 12, how it relates to the Last Days as spoken of by Jesus in the Gospel of John and if in fact the times mentioned herein are these very Last Days. If this is the case then these times have yet to be completed, at least the 1335 or the last part of the time prophecies listed in Daniel 12. They are presented in a sequence and, as history is laid out in a sequence, mirroring prophecy, then these time periods CANNOT be taken out of their sequence, which William Miller did and Adventists still continue to do.
The key, therefore, is to evaluate the points that I listed and you re-posted. Miller taught that if the EVENT that was predicted to happen did not happen that those events leading up to that event must be reevaluated. The EVENT he predicted was the return of Christ, it did not happen, therefore a reevaluation is called for, which has not been done, except to reevaluate the EVENT itself, the Cleansing of the Temple. Two separate events that occur at two different times which are represented by two different feast days, the Day of Atonement and the Feast of Tabernacles, respectively. The Day of Atonement is completed by the completion of the 2300 days prophecy and the Feast of Tabernacles is completed by the times in Daniel 12.
By my estimation through studying the Biblical elements presented and historical facts the time of the countdown in Daniel 12 started when two events took place:
1. Christ made desolate the Temple (the whole of the temple, all three parts) and took away the Daily at his crucifixion.
2. The Abomination of Desolation was "set up" in the Holy Place, the Court of the Tabernacle of the Congregation.
The first took place in AD 31, the second took place in AD 688. As the countdown could not begin until both requirements were complete the countdown thus had to begin in AD 688. As this is the case, historically, then ALL three times mentioned in Daniel 12 must begin here and each is calculated in its order:
688 + 1260 = 1948
688 + 1290 = 1978
688 + 1335 = 2023
Draw your own conclusions from this if you are willing to do so.
Christ himself completes these as he completed all those that came before.
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