Replacement Theology?

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Dual covenant theology is not an accurat description of the beliefs. It's just another inacurate label confusing the issue and is far from the truth.

You really have no idea what other believe.

Yes, I do, it is accurate, and while you are welcome to disagree, it isn't correct to do so.

The Jews follow a false, non-salvific religion, whose theocratic country persecutes Christians and Christianity...and its own Jews. Anyone who thinks that any bit of the OT Law is salvific without Christ is not adhering to historic Christian belief and is likely an adherent to dual-covenant theology.
 
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Unfortunately, a whole lot of the debate IS about racism. Many Christians who do reject supercessionism do so because they view us as racists. This thread is proof of that, and if you'd like to see more, I can oblige by bringing you to a thread where I was personally attacked by several Christian Zionists who called me a racist and, basically, a Nazi.

It is part of the whole debate. That's why they call supercessionism "Replacement theology"; because they believe (wrongly) we are putting the Jews "in their place".

Thats simply because replacement theology has been historicaly about racism and persicution. It happend.
 
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Yes, I do, it is accurate, and while you are welcome to disagree, it isn't correct to do so.

The Jews follow a false, non-salvific religion, whose theocratic country persecutes Christians and Christianity...and its own Jews. Anyone who thinks that any bit of the OT Law is salvific without Christ is not adhering to historic Christian belief and is likely an adherent to dual-covenant theology.

And who is dual covenant according to your description? They simply dont exist as that simple straw-man.
 
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I know.
Funny, I still don't have a clear picture on what it is or how its wrong.
Does any one Denomination within Christianity?

Supersessionism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Supersessionism, fulfillment theology, and replacement theology are terms for the biblical interpretation that the New Covenant supersedes or replaces the Mosaic Covenant,[1][2] the latter thus also referred to as the Old Covenant.

Types

Both Christian and Jewish theologians have identified different types of supersessionism in Christian reading of the Bible.
R. Kendall Soulen notes three categories of supersessionism identified by Christian theologians: punitive, economic, and structural.[8]

Christian views

The early Christian theologians saw the New Covenant in Christ as a replacement for the Mosaic Covenant (see "Roman Catholicism", below).
Historically, statements on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church have claimed her ecclesiastical structures to be a fulfillment and replacement of Jewish ecclesiastical structures (see also Jerusalem as an allegory for the Church).

As recently as 1965 Vatican Council II affirmed, "the Church is the new people of God," without intending to make "Israel according to the flesh", the Jewish people, irrelevant in terms of eschatology (see "Roman Catholicism, below).

Church fathers

Many Early Christian commentators taught that the Old Covenant was fulfilled and replaced (superseded) by the New Covenant in Christ, for instance:

Roman Catholicism

Supersessionism is not the name of any official Roman Catholic doctrine and the word appears in no Church documents; however, the Catholic Church does officially teach that the Mosaic covenant was fulfilled and replaced by the New Covenant in Christ.

Nevertheless, the Catholic Church does not teach that the Jewish people themselves are effectively irrelevant in terms of eschatology and Biblical prophecy (see: Avery Cardinal Dulles).

Protestant view

Protestant views on supersessionism revolve around their understanding of the relationship between the various covenants of the Bible, particularly the relationship between the covenants of the Old Testament and the New Covenant.

The most prominent Protestant views on this relationship are called Law and Gospel, Covenant theology, New Covenant Theology, and Dispensationalism. These views are not restricted to a single denomination.

Jewish view

See also: Christianity and Judaism
From a Jewish perspective, however, the Torah was given to the Jewish people as an eternal covenant (for example Exo 31:16-17, Exo 12:14-15) and will never be replaced or added to (for example Deut 4:2, 13:1), and hence Judaism rejects supersessionism as contrary to the Hebrew Bible at best (see also Antinomianism) and antisemitic at worst. For Judaism and other critics, supersessionism is a theology of replacement, which substitutes the Christian church, consisting of Christians, for the Jewish and B'nei Noah people.

Modern Jews are offended by the traditional Christian belief in supersessionism,[28] and some historians see supersessionism as one source of anti-Semitism in Western culture.[29]



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In practice replacement theology is not about dual covenant in regards to salvation at all. It’s about denying the prophetic biblical promises of the land to the Jewish people.
That’s why it’s racist in the hands of the wrong people.
I assume you are a futurist zionist Dispensationalist?

Dispensationalism

Dispensationalist Beliefs – Israel and the Kingdom of God by William E. Cox

According to dispensationalists, God has two distinct bodies of people with whom he is working: Israel and the church. There is a separate plan for each of these two peoples.
Israel is said to be an earthly people, while the church represents a heavenly body. National Israel’s expectation is an earthly kingdom; the church’s hope [...]

Evaluating Premillennialism: Part III – Israel and the Church by Cornelis P. Venema

We have frequently noted that one of the principal tenets of Dispensational Premillennialism is the strict separation between God’s earthly people, Israel, and his heavenly people, the church.
It could even be argued that this separation between Israel and the church is the root principle of classical — as distinguished from ‘progressive’ Dispensationalism. From this [...]




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