I know that the CoC generally believes in Memorialism in the Lord's Supper only, but I've just been wondering why lately.
I'm interested in Catholic and Orthodox church (particularly Orthodox), and they point out the fact that Real Presence is what all of the early church fathers believed and what Christians in general believed up until post-Reformation scientific ages *ahem* Reformed theologian Huldrych Zwingli*ahem*.
One could say that all of the early church fathers were wrong, but where does history ever present an alternate belief? Where were people at the time of the ECFs who ever questioned this belief? It seemed to be THE universal Christian belief. Here are early church father quotes about RP.
In my CoC, Real Presence is taught as a "tradition of men", but I was just wondering, since the CoC claims to be the restored church, how do we justify a view that only came so late in history, and still know without a doubt if it's the correct teaching, and that Real Presence isn't? After all, all that's riding on it is actually meaning he was speaking literally when he said "this is my body", and "this is my blood". The thing is, everyone seemed to think that until after the reformation.
Week after week at my CoC, they always simply give thanks for the "emblems that represent your son", and I've been wondering, is it a correct teaching. Looking at history, the view certainly doesn't appear to come from the early church.
I'm interested in Catholic and Orthodox church (particularly Orthodox), and they point out the fact that Real Presence is what all of the early church fathers believed and what Christians in general believed up until post-Reformation scientific ages *ahem* Reformed theologian Huldrych Zwingli*ahem*.
One could say that all of the early church fathers were wrong, but where does history ever present an alternate belief? Where were people at the time of the ECFs who ever questioned this belief? It seemed to be THE universal Christian belief. Here are early church father quotes about RP.
In my CoC, Real Presence is taught as a "tradition of men", but I was just wondering, since the CoC claims to be the restored church, how do we justify a view that only came so late in history, and still know without a doubt if it's the correct teaching, and that Real Presence isn't? After all, all that's riding on it is actually meaning he was speaking literally when he said "this is my body", and "this is my blood". The thing is, everyone seemed to think that until after the reformation.
Week after week at my CoC, they always simply give thanks for the "emblems that represent your son", and I've been wondering, is it a correct teaching. Looking at history, the view certainly doesn't appear to come from the early church.