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<blockquote data-quote="bling" data-source="post: 61093136" data-attributes="member: 216174"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">First off: thank you for responding.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I think you have a good reason for not believing in what you think the Christian God is like. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Have you ever thought that just maybe part of the reason God remains questionable is to keep from upsetting people like yourself?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">We can both be accused of taking our believes (yours there is no God and mine that there is a God ) and rationally trying to explain everything around us. You see God as being illogical and I see the belief that there is no God as being illogical. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I do agree with you that many people that call themselves Christians picture a very undesirable, inconsistent, selfish, and arbitrary Creator, so you have the right to reject such a God.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I was interested in why you think it is illogical to believe God could be like Herod Antipas? (I agree with you, but wonder about your logic.)</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">If there is a Creator of this universe He would have to be virtually infinitely intelligent, since the complexity of the universe is virtually infinite (The more we know the more we realize we do not know.) That would also mean this Creator could not have been created, since that would require an even greater intelligence (something does not come from nothing.)</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">So if there is a Creator, by now He would have had to reach the epitome of either good or evil, but if He is evil why make good perceived as worthy and valuable?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">What is the advantage to the Creator to be illogical? </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">The question than is: Would an all Loving Creator fit what we know or would an evil Creator fit better or if neither fits at all would that not show there is no concerned Creator and maybe no creator at all?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">If there is a truly benevolent Creator, He would have to be the epitome of unselfishness. This Creator would have to always be doing stuff for others and not His own sake.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">This type of creator would not be looking to get anything from His creation, but would want to give the greatest gifts He could give to His creations. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">What would be the greatest gift (having the greatest value) a Creator could give? </span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bling, post: 61093136, member: 216174"] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]First off: thank you for responding.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I think you have a good reason for not believing in what you think the Christian God is like. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Have you ever thought that just maybe part of the reason God remains questionable is to keep from upsetting people like yourself?[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We can both be accused of taking our believes (yours there is no God and mine that there is a God ) and rationally trying to explain everything around us. You see God as being illogical and I see the belief that there is no God as being illogical. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I do agree with you that many people that call themselves Christians picture a very undesirable, inconsistent, selfish, and arbitrary Creator, so you have the right to reject such a God.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I was interested in why you think it is illogical to believe God could be like Herod Antipas? (I agree with you, but wonder about your logic.)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]If there is a Creator of this universe He would have to be virtually infinitely intelligent, since the complexity of the universe is virtually infinite (The more we know the more we realize we do not know.) That would also mean this Creator could not have been created, since that would require an even greater intelligence (something does not come from nothing.)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]So if there is a Creator, by now He would have had to reach the epitome of either good or evil, but if He is evil why make good perceived as worthy and valuable?[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]What is the advantage to the Creator to be illogical? [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]The question than is: Would an all Loving Creator fit what we know or would an evil Creator fit better or if neither fits at all would that not show there is no concerned Creator and maybe no creator at all?[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]If there is a truly benevolent Creator, He would have to be the epitome of unselfishness. This Creator would have to always be doing stuff for others and not His own sake.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]This type of creator would not be looking to get anything from His creation, but would want to give the greatest gifts He could give to His creations. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman'][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]What would be the greatest gift (having the greatest value) a Creator could give? [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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