Prehistory, somewhat Biblical

[Kylie]

Then again this is why I think you’re a bot

Do you think that only a bot can point out the weaknesses in your "don't provide evidence, only provide soundbites" style of discussion?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Do you think that only a bot can point out the weaknesses in your "don't provide evidence, only provide soundbites" style of discussion?

Post 2 provided more than enough

 

[Kylie]

Post 2 provided more than enough

No, you provided some guy with a YouTube channel. Anyone can make a video about just about anything and put it on YouTube.

All you provided was a guy who made a video that said what you wanted to hear, exactly as I said in post 18.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No, you provided some guy with a YouTube channel. Anyone can make a video about just about anything and put it on YouTube.

All you provided was a guy who made a video that said what you wanted to hear, exactly as I said in post 18.

Set this aside

 

[JohnEmmett]

Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.

Blaise Pascal

 

[Estrid]

_I intend to have scientific discussion despite x and I encourage the same from participants in this discussion.
_I've been working on trying to figure out ancient history for a few years now on an outside forum thread, called Creationism, Myth and Catastrophism at Creationism, Myth and Catastrophism - Page 46 - Thunderbolts Forum v3.0
_I'm a universalist Christian, but not a Creationist. I.e., I think it unlikely that the universe or the Earth was created from nothing. But I like a lot of Creationist science. The main Creationist sites I reference are Latest Articles - creation.com and https://www.icr.org/homepage/ .
_My main interest in ancient history is regarding ancient cataclysms, which had tremendous influence on societies, history & religions. Velikovsky's books, Worlds in Collision and Earth in Upheaval were the first ones on the subject that intrigued me, starting in 1969. There were several magazines I followed over the years that involved a lot of scientists discussing and making productive findings on ancient catastrophic events. David Talbott and Dwardu Cardona made some especially impressive findings in comparative mythology, which involved Venus, Mars & Earth being likely former satellites of Saturn and some cataclysms were likely due to their transitions to their present orbits. But that's hard to prove or pin down. (Velikovsky's ideas about Venus and Mars were misdated about a thousand years later than they actually occurred IMO.)
_What seems easier to prove is that there was one or more Great Floods likely within the past 6,000 years.
_Nearly all of the sedimentary rock strata were likely deposited during those Floods.
_That means most mainstream dating methods are very likely hugely inaccurate. C14 is somewhat more accurate. Tree ring dating may be better yet.
_The dinosaurs likely were killed off by one or more of those Floods and accompanying impacts etc.
_The Floods were likely caused by several things: 1. a large temporarily elliptically orbiting body was close enough to raise weekly or monthly tidal tsunamis during closest approaches; 2. a large asteroid broke up the supercontinent, Pangaea, causing flooding; 3. Asteroids or comets impacted the Ice Sheet and caused catastrophic meltwater floods; 4. heavy rains were precipitated by such objects entering our atmosphere when it was denser than present; 5. heat, volcanic dust and impact dust caused evaporation & precipitation, which caused more flooding etc.
_The supercontinent Pangaea likely existed until about 4,500 years ago and it was likely lowland, with shallow seas and no mountains, and warm climate, because it was centered near the equator and none of the lands were in the polar regions.
_When the asteroid broke up Pangaea, the impact caused mountain chains to form quickly and when the moving continents encountered friction that slowed them from sliding away, more mountain chains formed. See Shock Dynamics set Plate Tectonics in motion
_The sliding continents exposed a lot of molten magma on the newly formed Atlantic & Indian Ocean floors. As Pacific Ocean waters entered the new ocean basins, a lot of water formed steam, then impact dust and volcanic dust caused much of it to fall as rain and snow.
_Northern parts of North America and Eurasia slid northward into the Arctic region and Antarctica slid into the south polar region. Much of the snow fell in these high latitude lands, producing the Ice Sheets.
_A lot of science media have covered the impact that supposedly killed off the dinosaurs. Impacts were involved, but most of the dinosaurs show signs of having drowned by flooding. A more recent science theory discusses similar evidence of impacts that killed off the giant mammals. It's called the Younger Dryas (YD) impact. It's generally dated to almost 13,000 years ago, but it's very likely that it occurred around 4,300 years ago instead.
_There were several impacts. The main ones hit the Ice Sheet around Michigan, which ejected huge ice boulders that made secondary impacts all over eastern North America, which killed off most animals and people there. They formed the Carolina Bays and other similar craters.
_Much of the Ice Sheets melted from these and other impacts, causing a lot of flooding. The Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea likely flooded at around that time. The Great Pyramid and the Sphinx were flooded with about 200 feet of seawater probably at that time.
_The Earth and other planets may have transitioned to their present orbits around that time.
_The time before the Pangaea breakup was called the Golden age, when the climate was ideal and life was easy.
_Religions organized for the purpose of trying to bring back the Golden Age.
_I believe people (angels, spirits) probably exist in the spirit world among us and they have probably been trying to improve religions over the centuries.
_I believe Jesus is likely the leading angel.
_I think the Bible refers to corrupt society as the Beast, because it uses brute force to accomplish its will much like wild beasts do, esp. predators.
_And I think when the Bible talks about End Times, it's referring to the End Times for the Beast. In other words, the system of domination by force is coming to an end, and Jesus' system of Love for All (as described in Acts 15 etc) will soon replace the Beast and bring about our new Golden Age.
_I don't want to discuss the Religion aspect in this thread. I'd like to just discuss the Science aspect here. Si?

"Creation science" is an oxymoron.
So you have no evident intent to discuss science.

 

[JohnEmmett]

"Creation science" is an oxymoron.

Romans 1:20

 

[Tanj]

According to the thread title, the OP represents "somewhat biblical". I for one would like to see what "completely biblical" looks like.

 

[Estrid]

According to the thread title, the OP represents "somewhat biblical". I for one would like to see what "completely biblical" looks like.

Ha. You did. You want to see what a correct title looks like.

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

Then again this is why I think you’re a bot

If kylie is a bot then thats a very smart bot

 

[Bungle_Bear]

If kylie is a bot then thats a very smart bot

Initially he thinks anyone who disagrees with him is a bot. After a while he says "you don't exist." He doesn't cope very well with dissent.

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

Honestly, I think he is a bot or a troll with the way he spout these ridiculous circular responses. He goes on and on forever and he doesn't even listen to you he just talks around you.

 

[Estrid]

Honestly, I think he is a bot or a troll with the way he spout these ridiculous circular responses. He goes on and on forever and he doesn't even listen to you he just talks around you.

Best defense is a good projection?

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

I guess so and here I though my arguments are bad were bad. Still are but this is childish.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Initially he thinks anyone who disagrees with him is a bot.

You never adapt…

You just repeat “false memory”

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

You never adapt…

You just repeat “false memory”

There is no evidence that the mandala effect is real its implausible and violates all laws of physics.
Bungle adapts all the time, the difference is he adapts when new verifiable evidence is presented which you haven't done and when you are wrong you stay in denial and then you mock others for being skeptics but I would suggest being skeptical which is something you can't seem to grasp.

 

[JohnEmmett]

There is no evidence that the mandala effect is real

There is plenty of evidence

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

Ok whatever you say.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Ok whatever you say.

I care what is true

 

[DiscipleOfChrist85]

I'm not playing this game you always play I'm done here. and yes I brought this on myself.
Oh and don't talk about truth when all you do is deny it.