Predestination and Evolution

[JohnJones]

I want to run a poll to see if the Arminian vs. Calvinist thing has any relationship to Young Earth vs Creationism.

 

[Van]

Hi, I did not vote finding no catigory labeled other.

I am a non-calvinist who believes God created everything by a means we do not understand. Job 38.

 

[Beoga]

Calvinist-young earth creation

 

[reformedfan]

Calvinist, young earth creationist, we are in the lead!! WE ARE #1!!!!!

(Just kidding)

 

[pcwilkins]

Calvinist, and young earth creation. Just like Genesis 1 says!

I am a non-calvinist who believes God created everything by a means we do not understand. Job 38.

Van, this is intriguing. The bible says quite clearly that God created the earth in six days, which is the young-earth-creation theory, so why is it that you don't believe it? I accept that we can't understand it, but I always thought you accepted the whole bible as true....was I wrong?

Peter

 

[Van]

Peter, I believe the whole bible is true, but I do not understanding the meaning of the whole bible, for now I see through a glass darkly. Job 38 written after the revelation concerning origins in Genesis, indicates God alone knows how God created the physical universe.

 

[pcwilkins]

But you do believe that God created everything in six days?

I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm just interested. I know that only God knows exactly how He did it, but sometimes we have to believe what we can't understand.

Peter

 

[Bulldog]

Looks like I'm a heretic.

 

[pcwilkins]

Looks like I'm a heretic.

Why??

 

[Van]

Yes of course I believe God created everything in six "days". These are "creation days" and their duration is not specified in the Bible. You are free to draw the inferrence they are 24 hour days, they may well be, I certainly do not maintain that they are not. I just do not know. Job 38.

Peter, if you want to debate this topic, there is a forum for it. I have no interest in debating this subject under soteriology, for me the key truth is God created everything and therefore as our creator He can do with us as He pleases. He is the potter and we are the clay.

 

[Beoga]

Looks like I'm a heretic.

well, that has been obvious for awhile

 

[Bulldog]

Why??

Take a guess who voted for Calvinist, Theistic Evolution

 

[JohnJones]

But you do believe that God created everything in six days?

In Genesis 1, God uses the formula "there was evening (dark hours) and morning (light hours) - day #." That shows that it is a literal 24-hour day. He also uses the creation week to explain to the Jews why the sabbath commandment says they are to work 6 days (He created everything in 6 days) and rest on the 7th day (He rested on the 7th day).

Exo 20:9-11 "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work...For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."​

I voted other/non-Calvinist, Young Earth Creation.

 

[2Timothy2]

Can't vote, but that is, unfortunately, typical of the YEC and Evolutionist camps.

Non-Calvinist, non-Arminian, strongly anti-evolution, Old Earth Creationist.

Although, I'm much closer to Calvinism than Arminianism.

 

[2Timothy2]

In Genesis 1, God uses the formula "there was evening (dark hours) and morning (light hours) - day #." That shows that it is a literal 24-hour day. He also uses the creation week to explain to the Jews why the sabbath commandment says they are to work 6 days (He created everything in 6 days) and rest on the 7th day (He rested on the 7th day).

Exo 20:9-11 "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work...For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."​

I voted other/non-Calvinist, Young Earth Creation.

Correction JohnJones, although this is more suited to the Origins forum: the formula in Genesis 1 is "there was evening, there was morning". You forgot the second verb "was", which most YEC do. And the Sabbath is a symbol of a 1 in 7, i.e. 6 work, 1 rest. This applies to the work week, but also to the sabbath of the land, and applies in the year of Jubilee situation. But, as I said, this is a discussion for another forum.

 

[Imblessed]

How about Calvinist/Don't Know?

lol! I've swung both ways, YEC and Theistic.....I've finally accepted that I just don't care enough to make a stand on that. I'm too busy learning in other areas and can't seem to find the time or energy to make a real study on it.

 

[Keith Van Horn]

Here is my oppinion, don't worry about it, just let God be God. Just as C.H Spurgen said " our understanding of God's power is like a Gnat trying to understand the sea." Pray to God and let him take control.