Praise For Glenn Beck

[okafor]

"In Israel, there is more courage in one square mile than in all of Europe. In Israel, there is more courage in one Israeli soldier than in the combined and cold hearts of every bureaucrat at the United Nations.

Amen to that!


Caroline B. Glick: Glenn Beck's revealing visit

American media superstar Glenn Beck's visit to Israel this week was a revealing and remarkable event. It revealed what it takes to be a friend of Israel. And it revealed the causes of Israel's difficulty in telling its enemies from its friends.

Beck came to Israel to launch a global movement of activists committed to supporting Israel, not in order to "rape" it, but in order to empower it to defeat its enemies and stand up to an increasingly hostile world. In his speech under the Temple Mount, Beck roused his audience — which contrary to media reports was a mix of American Christians and American Jews joined by scores of Israelis — to action. With gripping prose, Beck told his audience to disregard the "convenient" lies about Israel and embrace the truth.

That truth he said is that "In Israel, there is more courage in one square mile than in all of Europe. In Israel, there is more courage in one Israeli soldier than in the combined and cold hearts of every bureaucrat at the United Nations. In Israel, you can find people who will stand against incredible odds, against the entire tide of global opinion, for what is right and good and true. Israel is not a perfect country. No country is perfect. But it tries, and it is courageous."

Beck is rare, because he refuses to bow to the intellectual intimidation and groupthink that plagues the discourse on Israel in Israel itself and throughout the world. He refuses to play by the rules in which friends of Israel are castigated as messianic crazies and extremists and Israel's enemies are praised as friends and great artists and courageous dissidents. He is an exception to a demented rule.
Israel's media didn't come to their hatred of Beck on their own. Most of it is fuelled by American Jewish leftists.

Beck said that his movement will be one of individuals who work together to defend Israel and the Jews from those who seek our destruction. He argued that regular people are far more capable of understanding what needs to be done than the well heeled experts who lead us down the garden path of weakness and demoralization.

And he is right.

And in bringing this message to Israel, he demonstrated his friendship. We should return the favor by taking his advice. We should trust ourselves and our instincts and stop listening to the "experts" who preach weakness and surrender. \

 

[Lean Forward]

Personally I'm becoming very fatigued of seemingly rabid pro Israeli State Christians who act is if support for Israel somehow absolves them of any anti-Semitism, when their primary, if not only, reason for supporting the state of Israel has to do with Christian apocalyptic "prophecy" not out of any love or concern for the Jewish people. Beck is an anti-Semite, he makes the same arguments and promotes the same type of conspiracy theory's as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, at some point Beck made a list of 9 people he called number one enemies of America; it should not be taken as any coincidence 8 out of 9 were Jewish. Beck may "love" Israel but he is no more a friend of the Jewish people than he is a friend of blacks though that dosen't stop him from claiming to be a civil rights "leader" and declaring the civil rights movement in the west "over".

 

[okafor]

Personally I'm becoming very fatigued of seemingly rabid pro Israeli State Christians who act is if support for Israel somehow absolves them of any anti-Semitism, when their primary, if not only, reason for supporting the state of Israel has to do with Christian apocalyptic "prophecy" not out of any love or concern for the Jewish people. Beck is an anti-Semite, he makes the same arguments and promotes the same type of conspiracy theory's as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, at some point Beck made a list of 9 people he called number one enemies of America; it should not be taken as any coincidence 8 out of 9 were Jewish. Beck may "love" Israel but he is no more a friend of the Jewish people than he is a friend of blacks though that dosen't stop him from claiming to be a civil rights "leader" and declaring the civil rights movement in the west "over".

Wow, you've covered a lot of ground. But clearly you didn't read Glick's article, where she says:

The Left's attacks on Beck are fuelled by the fact that he is a Christian Zionist. The Left's default mode is to accuse Christian Zionists of a hidden agenda to convert Jews and a secret desire to see us killed in an Armageddon.

But in truth the media's embrace of Israel's enemies, their rejection of Beck, and most importantly Beck's refusal to bow to their conventional wisdom that Israel's enemies should be praised and its friends should be condemned all reveal the reason that Christian Zionists can be trusted and embraced by Israelis.

Christian Zionists — like Jewish religious Zionists -- are unmoved by the media's intimidation because of their faith in G0d, and their reliance on scripture. Their faith provides them with a means of judging reality that is independent of the largely post-religious intellectual commissariat that runs the media and the cultural elite in the Western world. They don't seek or care about receiving the accolades of the New York Times or other post-religious totems for their actions. And Beck's message to Israelis is that we shouldn't care either.

For most Israelis, this message rings powerful and true. But for the media, in Israel and throughout the West, it is dangerous sedition that must be marginalized and destroyed.

 

[Touma]

Israeli soldiers are brave alright. Look at how they handle that little girl!

 

[rambot]

Wow, you've covered a lot of ground. But clearly you didn't read Glick's article, where she says:

The Left's attacks on Beck are fuelled by the fact that he is a Christian Zionist. The Left's default mode is to accuse Christian Zionists of a hidden agenda to convert Jews and a secret desire to see us killed in an Armageddon.

Well, there is a problem with the premise. "The Left's" attack on Beck as that he's a lying manipulator of his viewership.

 

[TheReasoner]

Well, there is a problem with the premise. "The Left's" attack on Beck as that he's a lying manipulator of his viewership.

Beck does not deserve any acknowledgement, praise or support. That "man" is, as you say, a lying sub-man. I've never liked him and his fallacies, but his treatment of the 22nd of July got me up in flames: There is no precedent in US history - unless you're a native American - that can be used as an example to show just how insulting and un-historical his claims were. Sad thing is: That was far from the only time he has pulled something like that.

So, sorry OP. No support for Beck here. Of course I'm more than a leftie. A real socialist. Not the kind Beck claims exists everywhere, under every rock. Nope. Real deal. Beck does not know what socialism is - or, if he does, he sure does not care to use the real definition but instead concocts nonsense as he goes. And I take issue with whoever uses words and terms in an accusatory fashion without even knowing what said term implies.

 

[S.ilvio]

Israeli soldiers brave..? Don't insult my intelligence. In fact Beck's existance in the media insults humanity...

 

[okafor]

So, sorry OP. No support for Beck here.

Darn! Somehow, I think we'll survive.

 

[TheReasoner]

Darn! Somehow, I think we'll survive.

I'd imagine so.

Why do you support him? If I understand you correctly, you're one of his supporters. He doesn't even use the accusatory terms he love correctly. I am of course speaking of terms like fascist, communist and socialist. Spotting that is easy as pie, so why do you support the guy? Or if you're not one of his supporters, why do you imagine people DO support the "man"?

As I just said I'm a socialist and you probably are a Beckian my words probably just instill hate in you never mind what I say I suppose. Given how much Beck hates socialism, and encourages others to do the same - even if he doesn't know what it is. So if you follow him...
Why, though. Do you even know what socialism is? If you think Beck's words on the subject are true you're sadly mistaken, and I recommend you read up on the subject. Socialists such as myself are fierce supporters of democracy, justice, compassion and equality. Nothing at all like the totalitarian fascists Beck makes us out to be. At ALL.

 

[PHenry42]

"In Israel, there is more courage in one square mile than in all of Europe. In Israel, there is more courage in one Israeli soldier than in the combined and cold hearts of every bureaucrat at the United Nations.

Amen to that!

In Al Qaeda, there is more courage in one 9/11 bomber than in the combined and cold hearts of every employee at the WTC. In Japan, there is more courage in one Kamikaze pilot than in the combined and cold hearts of every sailor at an American warship.

Therefore?

Courage is some indicator of moral fortitude and the righteousness of your cause?

 

[mpok1519]

lol looks like he is pandering to a new audience. Does Israel have a Fox News who might want to tent-pole his show?

You can tell the man is super desperate; first Fox News drops him, then Cash for Gold snubs him. Where else does he have to turn for ratings? Israel!

Good thing Israel hates him just as much as America does.

 

[PHenry42]

lol looks like he is pandering to a new audience. Does Israel have a Fox News who might want to tent-pole his show?

Well, there is one called Israel National News, and which the OP frequently likes to quote. Well, it's not quite like Fox News, as Fox News is Fair and Balanced by devoting equal time to moderate right-wing and extreme right-wing opinions, while INN is almost entirely extreme right-wing. That might not be a bad thing for Beck though, since Fox apparently wasn't extreme enough for him.

 

[rambot]

In Al Qaeda, there is more courage in one 9/11 bomber than in the combined and cold hearts of every employee at the WTC. In Japan, there is more courage in one Kamikaze pilot than in the combined and cold hearts of every sailor at an American warship.

Therefore?

Courage is some indicator of moral fortitude and the righteousness of your cause?

Boom and Ouch!

I'd like to think the point would be taken....NO WAY it was.

 

[mpok1519]

Well, there is one called Israel National News, and which the OP frequently likes to quote. Well, it's not quite like Fox News, as Fox News is Fair and Balanced by devoting equal time to moderate right-wing and extreme right-wing opinions, while INN is almost entirely extreme right-wing. That might not be a bad thing for Beck though, since Fox apparently wasn't extreme enough for him.

I sent in some gold to him and his cronies and he sent back a door knob claiming "it wasn't real gold"....jokes on them....heh

 

[okafor]

I'd imagine so.

Why do you support him?

I'm neither a fan nor a critic of Beck, I don't listen to him. I am, however, a fan of Caroline Glick, and a very strong supporter of Israel.

 

[TheReasoner]

I'm neither a fan nor a critic of Beck, I don't listen to him. I am, however, a fan of Caroline Glick, and a very strong supporter of Israel.

Well. That's a relief. I'm also a supporter of Israel. And of Palestine. Human beings on both sides, and suffering we should try to lessen. Jesus loves both Palestinians and Israelis, and so should we.

Matthew 5:9: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

I cling to no flag, but to the ideal of compassion, mercy, dialogue and peace. Flags are all too often used as excuses to kill, oppress or otherwise damn other people.

I'd also add: Supporting Israel does not mean supporting it's acts in Gaza.

 

[okafor]

Well. That's a relief. I'm also a supporter of Israel. And of Palestine. Human beings on both sides, and suffering we should try to lessen. Jesus loves both, so should we.

Matthew 5:9: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

There's an easy way to lessen the violence and achieve peace in the area. Palestinian leaders need to accept Israel's right to exist, stop attacking the Jews, and negotiate a settlement.

 

[TheReasoner]

There's an easy way to lessen the violence and achieve peace in the area. Palestinian leaders need to accept Israel's right to exist, stop attacking the Jews, and negotiate a settlement.

Negotiations need to be two-way. Not all palestinians are violent, and Israel is not innocent in those dealings. Peace is possible. But not without hard work from both sides. And the help of surrounding neighbors I suppose.

 

[okafor]

Negotiations need to be two-way. Not all palestinians are violent, and Israel is not innocent in those dealings. Peace is possible. But not without hard work from both sides. And the help of surrounding neighbors I suppose.

Well, I agree with you on what is needed, but we probably disagree about which party is intransigent. Hamas has not even altered it's charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel.

 

[Touma]

There's an easy way to lessen the violence and achieve peace in the area. Palestinian leaders need to accept Israel's right to exist, stop attacking the Jews, and negotiate a settlement.

Palestinians will do that when Israel accepts the Palestinians right to the land, the right for their family to return, and so on. Israel doesn't want peace. They want to remove all trace of Arabic culture from that land. It is a gradual genocide.