Revealing Times
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<Staff Edit> Here is the facts, all humans ever born, are nothing but a pipsqueak compared to Gods knowledge.
I believe the Universe is 13.7 Billion years old, I believe the first Day was 9.2 Billion years old, this former is proven through the WMAP/NASA Microwave mapping process. There is no proof of evolution, none, you can say there is until you are blue in the face, but even the best scientists say they can offer no evidence. I bet you you also rave about Multi-Verses, something that had to be "invented" because the odds of one universe popping into existence has astronomical mathematical odds, and is laughable. So they had to invent a bogus hypothesis. Facts be damned. Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempts to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters. Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe.
Do you even understand the degree of Fine Tuning required for the universe to come into existence ?
Fine tuning of the physical constants of the universe:
Parameter................................................................Max Deviation.
Ratio of Electronsrotons............................................ 1:1037
Ratio of Electromagnetic Force:Gravity........................... 1:1040
Expansion Rate of Universe ...........................................1:1055
Mass Density of Universe.............................................. 1:1059
Cosmological Constant .................................................1:10120
Degree of fine tuning
Recent Studies have confirmed the fine tuning of the cosmological constant (also known as "dark energy"). This cosmological constant is a force that increases with the increasing size of the universe. First hypothesized by Albert Einstein, the cosmological constant was rejected by him, because of lack of real world data. However, recent supernova 1A data demonstrated the existence of a cosmological constant that probably made up for the lack of light and dark matter in the universe. However, the data was tentative, since there was some variability among observations. Recent cosmic microwave background (CMB) measurement not only demonstrate the existence of the cosmological constant , but the value of the constant. It turns out that the value of the cosmological constant exactly makes up for the lack of matter in the universe.
The degree of fine-tuning is difficult to imagine. Dr. Hugh Ross gives an example of the least fine-tuned of the above four examples in his book, The Creator and the Cosmos:
One part in 10/37 is such an incredibly sensitive balance that it is hard to visualize. The following analogy might help: Cover the entire North American continent in dimes all the way up to the moon, a height of about 239,000 miles (In comparison, the money to pay for the U.S. federal government debt would cover one square mile less than two feet deep with dimes.). Next, pile dimes from here to the moon on a billion other continents the same size as North America. Paint one dime red and mix it into the billions of piles of dimes. Blindfold a friend and ask him to pick out one dime. The odds that he will pick the red dime are one in 10/37
The degree of fine-tuning is difficult to imagine. Dr. Hugh Ross gives an example of the least fine-tuned of the above four examples in his book, The Creator and the Cosmos:
The ripples in the universe from the original Big Bang event are detectable at one part in 100,000. If this factor were slightly smaller, the universe would exist only as a collection of gas - no planets, no life. If this factor were slightly larger, the universe would consist only of large black holes. Obviously, no life would be possible in such a universe.
Another finely tuned constant is the strong nuclear force (the force that holds atoms together). The Sun "burns" by fusing hydrogen (and higher elements) together. When the two hydrogen atoms fuse, 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy. If the amount of matter converted were slightly smaller—0.6% instead of 0.7%— a proton could not bond to a neutron, and the universe would consist only of hydrogen. With no heavy elements, there would be no rocky planets and no life. If the amount of matter converted were slightly larger—0.8%, fusion would happen so readily and rapidly that no hydrogen would have survived from the Big Bang. Again, there would be no solar systems and no life. The number must lie exactly between 0.6% and 0.8% (Martin Rees, Just Six Numbers).
Anyone that can not see that there has been Fine Tuning of our universe is oblivious to facts. And there is but one universe. Or at least you can never prove this, so why even bother ? Oh, it is because the universe forming without a fine tuner is so laughable, they have to use the "multi-verse" theory.
The universe is the perfect size it needs t be, it couldn't be much smaller or much larger or it wouldn't exist. If we added one grain of sand at the beginning we would not exist, but of course the universe is just a lucky chance, even though it is a 25 trillion to one shot.
Universe size matters !
Besides spiritual reasons, there are also physical constraints on the minimum (and maximum) mass of the universe. The universe could not have been much smaller than it is in order for nuclear fusion to have occurred during the first 3 minutes after the Big Bang. Without this brief period of nucleosynthesis, the early universe would have consisted entirely of hydrogen. Without helium (comprising ~24% of the matter in the universe), heavy element production in stars is not possible, so that no rocky planets would have ever existed in the entire history of the universe.
Likewise, the universe could not have been a much more massive than it is, or life would not have been possible. If the universe were just one part in 10/59 more massive, the universe would have collapsed before life was possible. Since there are only 10/80 baryons in the universe, this means that an addition of just 10/21 baryons (at 1.67x10−27 kg/baryon equals 1.7 mg of matter - equal to a grain of sand) would have made life impossible! The universe is exactly the size it must be for life to exist at all. (Richard Deem)
The odds of life forming on its own is even greater odds. Both must happen in one universe. Its hogwash.
I believe the Universe is 13.7 Billion years old, I believe the first Day was 9.2 Billion years old, this former is proven through the WMAP/NASA Microwave mapping process. There is no proof of evolution, none, you can say there is until you are blue in the face, but even the best scientists say they can offer no evidence. I bet you you also rave about Multi-Verses, something that had to be "invented" because the odds of one universe popping into existence has astronomical mathematical odds, and is laughable. So they had to invent a bogus hypothesis. Facts be damned. Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempts to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters. Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe.
Do you even understand the degree of Fine Tuning required for the universe to come into existence ?
Fine tuning of the physical constants of the universe:
Parameter................................................................Max Deviation.
Ratio of Electronsrotons............................................ 1:1037
Ratio of Electromagnetic Force:Gravity........................... 1:1040
Expansion Rate of Universe ...........................................1:1055
Mass Density of Universe.............................................. 1:1059
Cosmological Constant .................................................1:10120
Degree of fine tuning
Recent Studies have confirmed the fine tuning of the cosmological constant (also known as "dark energy"). This cosmological constant is a force that increases with the increasing size of the universe. First hypothesized by Albert Einstein, the cosmological constant was rejected by him, because of lack of real world data. However, recent supernova 1A data demonstrated the existence of a cosmological constant that probably made up for the lack of light and dark matter in the universe. However, the data was tentative, since there was some variability among observations. Recent cosmic microwave background (CMB) measurement not only demonstrate the existence of the cosmological constant , but the value of the constant. It turns out that the value of the cosmological constant exactly makes up for the lack of matter in the universe.
The degree of fine-tuning is difficult to imagine. Dr. Hugh Ross gives an example of the least fine-tuned of the above four examples in his book, The Creator and the Cosmos:
One part in 10/37 is such an incredibly sensitive balance that it is hard to visualize. The following analogy might help: Cover the entire North American continent in dimes all the way up to the moon, a height of about 239,000 miles (In comparison, the money to pay for the U.S. federal government debt would cover one square mile less than two feet deep with dimes.). Next, pile dimes from here to the moon on a billion other continents the same size as North America. Paint one dime red and mix it into the billions of piles of dimes. Blindfold a friend and ask him to pick out one dime. The odds that he will pick the red dime are one in 10/37
The degree of fine-tuning is difficult to imagine. Dr. Hugh Ross gives an example of the least fine-tuned of the above four examples in his book, The Creator and the Cosmos:
The ripples in the universe from the original Big Bang event are detectable at one part in 100,000. If this factor were slightly smaller, the universe would exist only as a collection of gas - no planets, no life. If this factor were slightly larger, the universe would consist only of large black holes. Obviously, no life would be possible in such a universe.
Another finely tuned constant is the strong nuclear force (the force that holds atoms together). The Sun "burns" by fusing hydrogen (and higher elements) together. When the two hydrogen atoms fuse, 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy. If the amount of matter converted were slightly smaller—0.6% instead of 0.7%— a proton could not bond to a neutron, and the universe would consist only of hydrogen. With no heavy elements, there would be no rocky planets and no life. If the amount of matter converted were slightly larger—0.8%, fusion would happen so readily and rapidly that no hydrogen would have survived from the Big Bang. Again, there would be no solar systems and no life. The number must lie exactly between 0.6% and 0.8% (Martin Rees, Just Six Numbers).
Anyone that can not see that there has been Fine Tuning of our universe is oblivious to facts. And there is but one universe. Or at least you can never prove this, so why even bother ? Oh, it is because the universe forming without a fine tuner is so laughable, they have to use the "multi-verse" theory.
The universe is the perfect size it needs t be, it couldn't be much smaller or much larger or it wouldn't exist. If we added one grain of sand at the beginning we would not exist, but of course the universe is just a lucky chance, even though it is a 25 trillion to one shot.
Universe size matters !
Likewise, the universe could not have been a much more massive than it is, or life would not have been possible. If the universe were just one part in 10/59 more massive, the universe would have collapsed before life was possible. Since there are only 10/80 baryons in the universe, this means that an addition of just 10/21 baryons (at 1.67x10−27 kg/baryon equals 1.7 mg of matter - equal to a grain of sand) would have made life impossible! The universe is exactly the size it must be for life to exist at all. (Richard Deem)
The odds of life forming on its own is even greater odds. Both must happen in one universe. Its hogwash.
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