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Frank Lutz put together a Democrat focus group the other day. Half were for Hillary, half for Obama. When Luntz asked the group to cite one thing Obama had done.....no one could answer.

All they knew was rhetoric about hope; and change. All they knew was what a Rolling Stone article about Obama described as THE STORY.

THE STORY (a term his campaign itself uses) is not the story.

To see what Obama is really about investigating his sparse voting record and his associates is the key.

In 2007, he had the most liberal voting record of any member of the Senate (http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/).

He is a long time member of a church which supports Louis Farrahkan and the Nation of Islam.

Dorothy Tillman, probably the most outspoken advocate for reparations for slavery has been a long time supporter. Obama endorsed her last bid for reelection.

According to both Human Rights Watch and the Vatican, long time Obama supporter and associate Raila Odinga, is pursuing a policy of majimbo in Kenya.

Democrats really need to ask themselves if this is the vision they have for America.
 
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Frank Lutz put together a Democrat focus group the other day. Half were for Hillary, half for Obama. When Luntz asked the group to cite one thing Obama had done.....no one could answer.

All they knew was rhetoric about hope; and change. All they knew was what a Rolling Stone article about Obama described as THE STORY.

THE STORY (a term his campaign itself uses) is not the story.

To see what Obama is really about investigating his sparse voting record and his associates is the key.

In 2007, he had the most liberal voting record of any member of the Senate (http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/).

He is a long time member of a church which supports Louis Farrahkan and the Nation of Islam.

Dorothy Tillman, probably the most outspoken advocate for reparations for slavery has been a long time supporter. Obama endorsed her last bid for reelection.

According to both Human Rights Watch and the Vatican, long time Obama supporter and associate Raila Odinga, is pursuing a policy of majimbo in Kenya.

Democrats really need to ask themselves if this is the vision they have for America.
Boy you really are getting desperate aren't you?
 
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Arkanin

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I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to say about Obama, but if you have specific criticisms of the man, I would be happy to give you an honest response. Let me start by posting wikipedia links (since, of course, incorrect information is never, EVER posted on Wikipedia... amirite? ;) )on the advisers you mentioned.

First: Zbigniew Brzezinski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Mr. Brzezinski has a Ph.D. in Political Science, and he served under Carter, and he is a part of the hawk lobby. But Barrack Obama is clearly not part of the hawk lobby.

Second: Sarah Sewall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Sewall
Sewall is a Rhodes Scholar who served under the Clinton Administration. As well as I can tell, she only wrote the introduction to the manual, regardless of its contents. You can find it at: http://books.google.com/books?id=BVsZGQAACAAJ

And... Obama's pastor is a radical. I understand you have concerns about the man, OK, I respect that, but these associations do not seem to me like major strikes against his character. If you're concerned about who he is, let's look at the choices he has made, and how truthful he has been in the past with his actions. I think that when we examine his personal track record, we can see an exceptional degree of decency and honesty in a political candidate.
 
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I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to say about Obama, but if you have specific criticisms of the man, I would be happy to give you an honest response. Let me start by posting wikipedia links (since, of course, incorrect information is never, EVER posted on Wikipedia... amirite? ;) )on the advisers you mentioned.

First: Zbigniew Brzezinski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Mr. Brzezinski has a Ph.D. in Political Science, and he served under Carter, and he is a part of the hawk lobby. But Barrack Obama is clearly not part of the hawk lobby.

Second: Sarah Sewall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Sewall
Sewall is a Rhodes Scholar who served under the Clinton Administration. As well as I can tell, she only wrote the introduction to the manual, regardless of its contents. You can find it at: http://books.google.com/books?id=BVsZGQAACAAJ

And... Obama's pastor is a radical. I understand you have concerns about the man, OK, I respect that, but these associations do not seem to me like major strikes against his character. If you're concerned about who he is, let's look at the choices he has made, and how truthful he has been in the past with his actions. I think that when we examine his personal track record, we can see an exceptional degree of decency and honesty in a political candidate.

What makes you so confident that Obama is an honest person?
 
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