Hi there,
So yes, it is Sunday and I am just looking at this as simply as I can. I tried to work out what Evolutionists would see in Jesus and it seemed to just drag and drag out. I am not sure if that is a sign of something or not. So now I am looking at it, without any real preconceptions and what I figure, is that what Evolutionists want Jesus to mean, is more and more license to do what they like. The trouble is, this does not have the consequences of less and less reticence that the world might think. Instead, it creates convolution.
That is the point: how can Evolution just get more and more convoluted? Am I supposed to think that something that can cope with convolution will emerge, thanks to Evolution - that sounds like rubbish? I mean really, if all you do is mutate and reincorporate mutation, you are not going to get anything but convolution of the original point: that better is needed. Better being needed, still has no mechanism to reign in mutation. I have tried and tried to get Evolutionists on this board, to realise that a point is needed, but they have denied there is one - and now that has left me with the impression I now have, that Evolution is going nowhere.
I don't want to put this in the Physical and Life Sciences forum, because they will just shoot it down saying "Evolution never had a point, so what?"; I mean one of them literally said "Evolution is a random walk" - it just gives nothing to a conversation, that could be any number of things about what Jesus said or what He meant or where He went or whatever! I mean we could really be having a constructive conversation, but they make it about keeping in step with the herd - as if there should be consequences for trying to understand Evolution any other way. There are infinite ways of interpreting Evolution, that's the point, choosing to ignore an infinite difference, is like insulting God - I would think.
So if it is a question of convolution, maybe there is a selection pressure that will prove beatable because of that convolution, but really, what kind of a chance is that? I mean who honestly mutates at random, with the hope they will win the galactic lottery. Yet this is a natural conclusion, that stems equally naturally from the premises that Evolution sets out. Can you see this? If no more adaptation is needed, the past need to mutate becomes a leaky tap... I mean it will literally drive you crazy if you do nothing about - and I am saying: maybe Jesus can do something about it?
Anyway, in some ways this is just a soliloquy on the stage of life, for God to wake up to on Monday. I'm not sure what to add and I certainly won't be falling for Evolution while this remains unresolved. Don't be snared. God doesn't want your faith to be vexed in any measure ("not one hair on your head will be lost" Jesus). Maybe if we butt heads amongst each other, we will come up with something - Lord knows the Holy Spirit would rather forget Evolution, to begin with.
We'll get through this, we will: just hang in there!
So yes, it is Sunday and I am just looking at this as simply as I can. I tried to work out what Evolutionists would see in Jesus and it seemed to just drag and drag out. I am not sure if that is a sign of something or not. So now I am looking at it, without any real preconceptions and what I figure, is that what Evolutionists want Jesus to mean, is more and more license to do what they like. The trouble is, this does not have the consequences of less and less reticence that the world might think. Instead, it creates convolution.
That is the point: how can Evolution just get more and more convoluted? Am I supposed to think that something that can cope with convolution will emerge, thanks to Evolution - that sounds like rubbish? I mean really, if all you do is mutate and reincorporate mutation, you are not going to get anything but convolution of the original point: that better is needed. Better being needed, still has no mechanism to reign in mutation. I have tried and tried to get Evolutionists on this board, to realise that a point is needed, but they have denied there is one - and now that has left me with the impression I now have, that Evolution is going nowhere.
I don't want to put this in the Physical and Life Sciences forum, because they will just shoot it down saying "Evolution never had a point, so what?"; I mean one of them literally said "Evolution is a random walk" - it just gives nothing to a conversation, that could be any number of things about what Jesus said or what He meant or where He went or whatever! I mean we could really be having a constructive conversation, but they make it about keeping in step with the herd - as if there should be consequences for trying to understand Evolution any other way. There are infinite ways of interpreting Evolution, that's the point, choosing to ignore an infinite difference, is like insulting God - I would think.
So if it is a question of convolution, maybe there is a selection pressure that will prove beatable because of that convolution, but really, what kind of a chance is that? I mean who honestly mutates at random, with the hope they will win the galactic lottery. Yet this is a natural conclusion, that stems equally naturally from the premises that Evolution sets out. Can you see this? If no more adaptation is needed, the past need to mutate becomes a leaky tap... I mean it will literally drive you crazy if you do nothing about - and I am saying: maybe Jesus can do something about it?
Anyway, in some ways this is just a soliloquy on the stage of life, for God to wake up to on Monday. I'm not sure what to add and I certainly won't be falling for Evolution while this remains unresolved. Don't be snared. God doesn't want your faith to be vexed in any measure ("not one hair on your head will be lost" Jesus). Maybe if we butt heads amongst each other, we will come up with something - Lord knows the Holy Spirit would rather forget Evolution, to begin with.
We'll get through this, we will: just hang in there!
