Luke 23:43?

[cairaiii]

What did Jesus mean saying, today you will be with me in paradise? Did not Jesus descend into the dead until his Resurrection?

 

[anawim]

What did Jesus mean saying, today you will be with me in paradise? Did not Jesus descend into the dead until his Resurrection?

There are a couple of ways of looking at it. One, since there is no time in the next life, for the thief on the cross, it could have been "today".

Another possibility, is that since there is no punctuation in Greek, the sentence can actually read two different ways:

I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise
I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise

The first Jesus is speaking today, and the second, the thief will be with him in paradise today.

A third possibility is that the abode of the dead was for those who will be in paradise, and like purgatory is not hell, so it is awaiting heaven or paradise.

 

[a_ntv]

The time is something of this world.

The heaven is not subject to the time, it is OUT-FROM-THE-TIME (modern scientists would say that the time is a conseguence of the mass, St Augustine proved this with a different method..anyway the result is the same). A precise theological word to say out-form-the-time is eternal, that is not the same of everlasting

So in the heaven there is not YESTERDAY TODAY TOMORROW

 

[isshinwhat]

The Paradise of the Fathers, also known as the Limbo of the Fathers, the abode of the dead, or hades, is where Jesus went when we affirm in the Creed when we say He "...descended into Hell..."