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It's official; the rule of law does not apply to corrupt politicians.

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All I know is that if I or another 'normal' employee of the US government did anything like what Hilary did we'd be facing serious charges. But because she's a big wig and has connections she avoids that. The corruption is unreal and despicable.
 
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One must be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Not any old excuse will do.
Using a private email server falls within the realm of genuine carelessness, not criminal intent.
Using a private email server is precluded by Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code. It is unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email.

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:
“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”
Hillary intentionally deleted official emails, which is a clear felony.

Hillary also violated the freedom of Information Act by refusing to disclose all of her official communications.

Hillary violated U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material.

Hillary repeatedly violated 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees. She did this by withholding and concealing evidence from a Congressional investigation.

None of these criminal actions are in dispute. Instead a new standard of "intent" has been applied to Hillary and ONLY to Hillary since the director said subsequent offenders could be prosecuted.
 
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All I know is that if I or another 'normal' employee of the US government did anything like what Hilary did we'd be facing serious charges. But because she's a big wig and has connections she avoids that. The corruption is unreal and despicable.
Exactly. It violates the Equal protection clause and establishes one set of rules for the government and one for the governed.
 
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Using a private email server is precluded by Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code. It is unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email.

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:
“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”
Hillary intentionally deleted official emails, which is a clear felony.

Hillary also violated the freedom of Information Act by refusing to disclose all of her official communications.

Hillary violated U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material.

Hillary repeatedly violated 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees. She did this by withholding and concealing evidence from a Congressional investigation.

None of these criminal actions are in dispute. Instead a new standard of "intent" has been applied to Hillary and ONLY to Hillary since the director said subsequent offenders could be prosecuted.
This would make a good Letter to the Editor!
 
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So? What does her husband have to do with whether she's guilty or not?
It proves a pattern of behaviors on the part of the Clinton's. Well and beyond what is discussed here and for both Bill and Hillary.
And it demonstrates a different rule of law is being publicly touted as to their favor when it would not apply to any other suspect in the same instance.


Either we trust the legal system, in which case the FBI have told us there is insufficient evidence, and so Hillary must be presumed innocent under the law.
That's not what the FBI has said.

Or the legal system is corrupt. In which case, God help you.
The legal system is corrupt. Two attorneys, Bill and Hillary Clinton, with all the former titles they held , are above the law. One is running for highest office again. She'll make history if she gets the vote. Bill will make history as the First Gentleman of America. And he'll make history again in that he'll be the only former President who has entered the White house first as President and then as First Gentleman behind the wife that was former First Lady and now, after the November election should it turn her way, the first woman President of America.

How we know the fix is in in the case of this FBI investigation of emails and her culpability when Secretary of State in the matter of the Benghazi failure is that she's being given special dispensation on the email charges. And the Benghazi matter for all appearances is closed.
Why? I'll take a guess. Because if they went through with the proper legal processes that should apply, it would look really really bad when in one of his last acts Obama pardoned her prior to the election. Which no one would believe she won after he did that.
While a candidate who is indicted can't run for the office much less win. But if she did Obama could pardon her before he leaves office in January. In which case that would have her making other history. That would then devalue the faith and credit afforded her office of President.
And it would devalue Obama's as well. Making collusion readily apparent and that then impacts the faith and credit of the leadership itself to the other world powers.

Whereas, this FBI decision makes all that go away.

And believe this, the Clinton's know this. And so too does the FBI.
 
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As I have said and written repeatedly, the legal system is corrupt to the core. It favors the establishment and covers up its misdeeds – by both Democrats and Republicans. It is a club that divides up the riches and shares power at the expense of the people, much like the National Football League has the American and National conferences.

“This latest example of how the elite protect each other comes as no surprise. Had FBI Director Comey recommended prosecution, his career would have been over. The Democrats could have blocked any future appointment. While Comey has more integrity than most for a government official, he would have been frozen out of official Washington had he taken strong action, particularly in the face of President Barack Obama’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Personal interests thus likely took precedent over the state of the nation. Larry Klayman, president of Freedom Watch.
 
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Exactly. It violates the Equal protection clause and establishes one set of rules for the government and one for the governed.
Fascinating isn't it? How much the Equal Protection Clause has changed this country for the worst on certain issues. And now in matters of criminality regarding a former alphabet of titles and Democrat Presidential nominee, it does not apply.

Teflon Clinton's.
 
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After swearing under oath that no classified information was ever contained in her e-mails:
Of the 30,000 emails turned over to the State Department, the FBI found that 110 messages in 52 chains contained information that was classified at the time, of which eight were Top Secret, 36 were Secret and eight were Confidential. Another 2,000 messages were later deemed to have contained classified information based on their subject matter, in a process called “up-classification.” source

Perjury, however, is not a crime if you are named Clinton.
 
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Completely backwards. Why would you file charges if there is nothing to prove?
You didn't watch the conference. There was no disputing that what she did violated the law. There was no question that if anyone else did it they would be prosecuted. Comey said they couldn't prove intent. If you can't prove that someone who deleted 20,000 emails under subpoena intended to obstruct justice, then you probably need someone to tie your shoes for you.
 
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...pretty much this ^

The question is...will the FBI comments reach a wide audience, or will certain media outlets leave that little tasty tidbit out when covering this story.

The FBI is there for a reason, I suppose I'm in no position to question their determination...however, I will say that I do find it odd that a person with a law degree from Yale is playing the "ignorance of the law" card.

It's like a Medical Doctor from Harvard saying "gee, I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink the mouthwash...gee...sorry guys, that's my bad"

...you have higher expectations for a person with certain elevated levels of educational attainment in certain fields, and expect them to know better.
At the same time, the Democrats want to tout Hillary's "experience".
 
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You didn't watch the conference. There was no disputing that what she did violated the law. There was no question that if anyone else did it they would be prosecuted. Comey said they couldn't prove intent. If you can't prove that someone who deleted 20,000 emails under subpoena intended to obstruct justice, then you probably need someone to tie your shoes for you.
Since you watched it when it happened you'd know the keywords to use. Why not search YouTube and find the broadcast itself? :) That won't convince Clintonians. But it will sure give legs to the facts.
 
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As I have said and written repeatedly, the legal system is corrupt to the core. It favors the establishment and covers up its misdeeds – by both Democrats and Republicans. It is a club that divides up the riches and shares power at the expense of the people, much like the National Football League has the American and National conferences.

“This latest example of how the elite protect each other comes as no surprise. Had FBI Director Comey recommended prosecution, his career would have been over. The Democrats could have blocked any future appointment. While Comey has more integrity than most for a government official, he would have been frozen out of official Washington had he taken strong action, particularly in the face of President Barack Obama’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Personal interests thus likely took precedent over the state of the nation. Larry Klayman, president of Freedom Watch.
What was needed was a special prosecutor/investigator who would be largely immune the DC pressure......at least it would have come across as a more unbiased view regardless of the outcome.
 
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Can we imagine Hillary, the 67th Secretary of State, stepped down from that office because of Benghazi? Or are her proponents going to say it was because as SoS she couldn't run for President?

The lies continue as relates to Presidential hopeful Hillary. And they are able to be viewed from the right column of that video page.

Now, Donald Trump may be whatever people want to claim. However, he in his place as business mogul and billionaire has never cost four American's their lives in a foreign land where the American embassy is the same as American soil. And the terrorists that breached the property are as much as committing an act of war. Which hasn't been mentioned.

Hillary, has that to her discredit. She failed in every office she's held. And now she wants to lead the strongest nation in the free world.
 
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Completely backwards. Why would you file charges if there is nothing to prove?
You have to prove things in a court; hence the charges. Until then it is just evidence.
 
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What was needed was a special prosecutor/investigator who would be largely immune the DC pressure......at least it would have come across as a more unbiased view regardless of the outcome.
Odd isn't it? There was a special prosecutor appointed to investigate Bill committing adultery in the oval office. He was sexed by a trollop under the desk and that garnered a special prosecutor.
But not this? Which is far more serious.
 
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You didn't watch the conference. There was no disputing that what she did violated the law. There was no question that if anyone else did it they would be prosecuted. Comey said they couldn't prove intent. If you can't prove that someone who deleted 20,000 emails under subpoena intended to obstruct justice, then you probably need someone to tie your shoes for you.
Sorry your honor, I didn't intend to rob that bank......it was an accident.
 
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