Is the 3rd millennium AD not the 7th (and last) dispensation?

[interpreter]

I consider myself a dispensationalist because I believe the last dispensation, called the Day of the Lord and the Great Day of God Almighty, began in 2001 -- as many dispensationalists including myself predicted it would -- with the beginning of the Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty on 9/11 when the Euphrates was dry. And I believe that it results in the last vestige of the 7 heads of Satan being so soundly defeated that Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing the Church to rule the earth in peace for a thousand years. And I believe the US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th horseman to rule the earth for Jesus since the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds back in 312 AD, and will cause it to happen (or at least play the leading role). We are now dropping 100-pound "hailstones" on the latest face of the 7th head of Satan as prophesied. And I believe that the wise men were dispensationalists, who (like much of Jerusalem) expected the Messiah to be born exactly 4000 years after the appearance of Adam in the Garden of Eden (now Iraq), which is exactly when and where the first civilization appeared, and the first writing, first farming, etc, in short, the first civilized man. And at the end of the 7th dispensation, Satan will reappear and cause the earth to be destroyed by fire, ending the 7000-year reign of man on earth.

Do you guys agree with my assessment? And if not, why not?

 

[LastSeven]

Not even close. For starters, I believe Jesus' reign has already begun, which is why I believe we are currently in the thousand year period (which is not exactly 1000 years).

 

[interpreter]

Not even close. For starters, I believe Jesus' reign has already begun, which is why I believe we are currently in the thousand year period (which is not exactly 1000 years).

Then I would be correct in assuming you are not a dispensationalist? When do you think the thousand years began?

 

[random person]

Then I would be correct in assuming you are not a dispensationalist? When do you think the thousand years began?

Both partial preterists and full preterists interpret the 1,000 years as such:

The 1000 Year Reign of Christ ???​

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Richard Anthony​

Did you know that the phrase "1000 Year Reign of Christ" does not appear anywhere in scripture? Nor the word "millenium"? Does this surprise you? Notice in the above title, we did not spell out the word "thousand," but used "1000" instead. This is because numbers are fictions in numerical form and have no substance. And the "1000 year reign of Christ" is also a fiction according to Scripture, which has has no substance. It is born and bred from the doctrines of man, not from the Holy Scripture.
The "thousand year reign" appears nowhere in the sixty-six books, 1,189 chapters, 31,173 verses of the Bible except in this one passage where it occurs six times in six consecutive verses (Revelation 20:3-8). It is not solid study to build an entire system of beliefs about the end of the age and the status of the kingdom on such a highly symbolic passage. More especially when that interpretation conflicts with other plain passages of scripture.

Revelation 20:3-8 is the only passage in the entire scriptures that the so-called premillinialists have as the basis for the "1000 year reign." What endless variations of concocted fables have resulted! Clearly it does not contain the detail that they attribute to it.

First, it should be pointed out that scripture does not speak of "the thousand year reign of Christ." Revelation 20:4 says, "...and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." It's not Christ that reigns 1000 years, but those who were killed for God's sake that reign withChrist 1000 years.

To illustrate, consider the phrase, "John Doe reigned with the king for one year." Does this mean the king reigned for only one year? No, it does not. The king could reign for many years, but the point is not how long the king reigned but how long John reigned with the king. The king isn't the subject, it is speaking about how long John reigns with him. Likewise, Revelation 20:4 is not about how long Jesus will reign, but how long others will reign with Jesus. There's a big difference.

There are some things not mentioned in Revelation 20.

• First, it does not mention the second coming of Christ.
• Second, it does not mention a reign on earth.
• Third, this passage does not mention a bodily resurrection.
• Fourth, it does not mention Christ on earth.
• And fifth, it does not mention us, it says "they" lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Who are the "they" that lived and reigned with Christ? The souls of them that had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus. In an earlier chapter of this same book of Revelations, in Chapter 6:9-11, the picture is of the souls of martyrs who had been slain for the word of God under an altar crying for vengeance. Here the martyrs are on thrones, God's inevitable judgment has come. The victory came in the spirit world (not the physical), and God assured their victory. This passage only speaks of the "dead" reigning with Christ, this passage does not speak about those who are "alive" reigning with Christ.
The passage also mentions the first resurrection, which is in contrast with the second death. The point is not that the righteous is raised a thousand years before the wicked, for a physical reign on earth, but that the cause of Christ for which the martyrs died is triumphant. Evil is not forever on the throne. God has overcome.

This passage says nothing about Jesus coming to this earth and establishing a worldly kingdom at Jerusalem -- those that so teach are duty-bound to prove their doctrines with scripture, not just their imaginations.



Revelation 20:4, "…and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
This is where the phrase "1000 year reign" came from. Its proper use would be limited to exactly what John was describing at this point. The so-called "premillinialists" believe that they will be worldly conquerors with Christ when He comes to reign on this earth for 1000 years; but Paul says that "we are more than conquerors through him that loved us" now! And this is the essence of what John the Revelator is communicating. There is no reason to differentiate between these reigns. There is no reason to believe (other than impatience or dissatisfaction with God's plan for us) that there is anything sweeter on this earth than reigning in His kingdom, now.

At Revelation 20:6, the first resurrection clearly applies to those dead in Christ who lived and reigned with Christ for the figurative "1000-year period" in wait for the final judgment and the general resurrection of the just and the unjust. The second death is explained further below. It is the ultimate death that those who are lost will experience at that judgment, the first death being physical death. While the saints and true believers who die physically experience this first death, the second death will have no power over them.

While the main thrust of Revelation 20:6 is that the righteous dead are reigning with Christ, there is no reason to believe that those of us on this earth do not share in this reign now. One of the major losses of the "premillinialists" is that, in their quest for a worldly kingdom in the future, they fail to recognize the blessings of Christ reigning in our lives now.

Let us now compare scripture with scripture to interpret the "thousand years." In scripture, the term "thousand," when in reference to time, is always used symbolically of a predetermined time that God chooses. In other cases, it is always used symbolically for a large number of people or things. Surely, nobody can honestly interpret the following "thousands" as literal:


People or Things


Job 9:3, "If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand."
Psalms 50:10, "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills."

Ecclesiastes 7:28, "...one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found."

Song of Solomon 4:4, "…whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men."

Daniel 5:1, "Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand."

Daniel 7:10, "...thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him."




Days, Years, and Generations


Deuteronomy 7:9, "…which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that…keep his commandments to a thousand generations;"
1 Chronicles 16:15, "Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;"

Psalms 84:10, "For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand."

Psalms 90:4, "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past,"

Psalms 105:8, "He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations."

Ecclesiastes 6:6, "Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?"

2 Peter 3:8, "...one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."



It should be obvious from the above that every occurance of the word "thousand," by itself, throughout scripture, is not literal but symbolic for a large number or long period of time. Then, why is it when we go to the book of Revelation (the most symbolic book of them all), many interpret this thousand years as literal? Especially when there is no scriptural warrant for doing so?

Futurists make the same mistake that the Jews who crucified Christ made -- they were not satisfied with a spiritual kingdom; they had to have a literal, worldly, physical kingdom. The Truth of the matter is not that Christ will reign for a thousand years some time in the future, but that Christ is reigning now, and will continue to reign for eternity. We do not have to wait for His Kingdom to come sometime in the future before He starts reigning over our lives, for Christ's Kingdom is here now, and He desires that we reign with Him now, whether we choose to recognize it or not!

http://ecclesia.org/truth/1000.html

 

[ac28]

Please tell me this is April Fool's day and you 3, Interpreter, LastSeven, and Random Person just made all that stuff up as a joke.

 

[random person]

Please tell me this is April Fool's day and you 3, Interpreter, LastSeven, and Random Person just made all that stuff up as a joke.

did you even bother to read my article in its entirety?

 

[ac28]

You didn't write an article. You copied and pasted an article. However, I probably wouldn't have read anything you wrote anyway, based on the inane stuff you have posted. If you want to refute dispensationalism, you really should learn something about it. Be careful though. The more you know about it, the more apt you are to convert to dispensationalism.

 

[random person]

You didn't write an article. You copied and pasted an article. However, I probably wouldn't have read anything you wrote anyway, based on the inane stuff you have posted. If you want to refute dispensationalism, you really should learn something about it. Be careful though. The more you know about it, the more apt you are to convert to dispensationalism.

i wouldnt touch dispensationalism with a hundred foot pole

hebrews 10:28-31, the writer of hebrews quoted from the song of moses specifically deuteronomy 32:35-36 and please note the use of the word "power" used in verse 36 is also used in daniel 12:7 which gives us a timeframe when all prophecy is fulflled.

 

[ac28]

i wouldnt touch dispensationalism with a hundred foot pole

It's your afterlife to do what you want with it.

Colossians 3:1-4, especially vs 2
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.