Is God really in control?

Is God in control?

  • Yes He is....WHY?

  • No He isn't....WHY NOT?

  • Does God have a plan for your life? If yes, What is it?

  • If no. Why not?


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qh93536

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seekingpurity047 said:
Negative. Because if that were the case, He would not have sent 10 plagues on Egypt in Exodus, would He have? I mean, Pharaoh wanted to give up the Israelites completely many times before the end of the plagues, but God said that He will make the Egyptians know that He is the Lord, not that they would repent and believe the gospel, but that they would see the glory of God.

To the glory of God,

Randy

P.S. God is independent of all things, and He is totally sovereign, He does not need anything in order for Him to exist.

Randy, you are young and have so much to learn. The one thing that God can not create is our love for him. He does need our love. We were created in his image. That means that we are like him. He has emotions just like we do. You can not have love without emotion. If you do, it is just an empty word. God has emotions of anger, frustration, joy, sadness, and love is what he is.

If you think you know him through scripture, you are wrong. You only know what is written ABOUT him.

When I say he needs our love, I don't mean that it is a dire need, a need to exist. You need love also, but not to exist. That is how he is.
 
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qh93536 said:
Randy, you are young and have so much to learn. The one thing that God can not create is our love for him. He does need our love. We were created in his image. That means that we are like him. He has emotions just like we do. You can not have love without emotion. If you do, it is just an empty word. God has emotions of anger, frustration, joy, sadness, and love is what he is.

If you think you know him through scripture, you are wrong. You only know what is written ABOUT him.

When I say he needs our love, I don't mean that it is a dire need, a need to exist. You need love also, but not to exist. That is how he is.

But to state that God is not in control of everything is to deny scripture.

Rom. 8:28
For we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to His purpose.

This includes decisions that other people may make, this includes 9/11, etc etc.

To the glory of God,

Randy
 
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GraceInHim said:
Glory is given to God, if we truly love him.. love is heartfelt not a motion for once a week.. is it daily ;)

You truely understand him. It is so simple, but people tend to overcomplicate it. When a person loves the Lord with a true love, that person becomes a true child of God. You are there.

The problem with most people is that love is just a word. Love, true love, must manifest into deed, or it is just an empty word.
 
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GraceInHim said:
Glory is given to God, if we truly love him.. love is heartfelt not a motion for once a week.. is it daily ;)

Rom. 9:22-24

22What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory-- 24even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?

To the glory of God,

Randy
 
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seekingpurity047 said:
But to state that God is not in control of everything is to deny scripture.

Rom. 8:28
For we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to His purpose.

To the glory of God,

Randy

Randy, Romans 8:28 means that those who love God with a TRUE love, will receive the favor and blessings of God. So, what is a true love. That means that you give Him yourself 100% mind, body and soul. That means that you make him number one in your life over EVERYTHING else. That means that you trust him implicitly. That means that you have complete faith in his desire and ability to meat your every need. That means that you are willing to drop everything and do anything for him. That means that you place his needs above yours. And, that means that you absolutely live with one single purpose and that purpose is to be a blessing to him. When you do and live all that, ALL good things will come to you.
 
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The problem we get into when we read and try to find an answer through scripture is we can fall into reading and not obeying.. Jesus came to earth for people to believe, repent and obey in the Father.. his true Glory will be seen for all in the end, when the sheep and the goats are separated.. meanwhile he still is available, he is not sleeping.. Jesus said the Father works 24/7 :)..
 
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qh93536 said:
Randy, Romans 8:28 means that those who love God with a TRUE love, will receive the favor and blessings of God. So, what is a true love. That means that you give Him yourself 100% mind, body and soul. That means that you make him number one in your life over EVERYTHING else. That means that you trust him implicitly. That means that you have complete faith in his desire and ability to meat your every need. That means that you are willing to drop everything and do anything for him. That means that you place his needs above yours. And, that means that you absolutely live with one single purpose and that purpose is to be a blessing to him. When you do and live all that, ALL good things will come to you.
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qh93536 said:
Randy, Romans 8:28 means that those who love God with a TRUE love, will receive the favor and blessings of God. So, what is a true love. That means that you give Him yourself 100% mind, body and soul. That means that you make him number one in your life over EVERYTHING else. That means that you trust him implicitly. That means that you have complete faith in his desire and ability to meat your every need. That means that you are willing to drop everything and do anything for him. That means that you place his needs above yours. And, that means that you absolutely live with one single purpose and that purpose is to be a blessing to him. When you do and live all that, ALL good things will come to you.

Praise God that I have been blessed with the privelege to love God.

To the glory of God,

Randy
 
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qh93536 said:
Randy, you are young and have so much to learn. The one thing that God can not create is our love for him. He does need our love.

I'll take Randy's wisdom any day.

Perhaps it is you that have much to learn and need to humble yourself to learn it from one less than half your age. Randy is correct in his theology. Baptists used to believe this. Sadly, today, many Baptists have forgotten their Calvinistic heritage in favor of something less.


A.W. Pink on the Sovereignty of God:
How different is the God of the Bible from the God of modern Christendom! The conception of Deity which prevails most widely today, even among those who profess to give heed to the Scriptures, is a miserable caricature, a blasphemous travesty of the Truth. The God of the twentieth century is a helpless, effeminate being who commands the respect of no really thoughtful man. The God of the popular mind is the creation of maudlin sentimentality. The God of many a present-day pulpit is an object of pity rather than of awe-inspiring reverence. To say that God the Father has purposed the salvation of all mankind, that God the Son died with the express intention of saving the whole human race, and that God the Holy Spirit is now seeking to win the world to Christ; when, as a matter of common observation, it is apparent that the great majority of our fellowmen are dying in sin, and passing into a hopeless eternity; is to say that God the Father is disappointed, that God the Son is dissatisfied, and that God the Holy Spirit is defeated. We have stated the issue baldly, but there is no escaping the conclusion. To argue that God is "trying His best" to save all mankind, but that the majority of men will not let Him save them, is to insist that the will of the Creator is impotent, and that the will of the creature is omnipotent. To throw the blame, as many do, upon the Devil, does not remove the difficulty, for if Satan is defeating the purpose of God, then, Satan is Almighty and God is no longer the Supreme Being.

To declare that the Creator's original plan has been frustrated by sin, is to dethrone God.

 
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qh93536 said:
Randy, Romans 8:28 means that those who love God with a TRUE love, will receive the favor and blessings of God. So, what is a true love. That means that you give Him yourself 100% mind, body and soul. That means that you make him number one in your life over EVERYTHING else. That means that you trust him implicitly. That means that you have complete faith in his desire and ability to meat your every need. That means that you are willing to drop everything and do anything for him. That means that you place his needs above yours. And, that means that you absolutely live with one single purpose and that purpose is to be a blessing to him. When you do and live all that, ALL good things will come to you.

If we make the blessings and "good things" of God dependent upon our willingness, the things we do, then we make God our debtor. Instead of free grace, God owes us for our good works.

We Reformers and Baptists as well rejected this philosophy centuries ago.

Grace is free; it is not owed to man for what he has done. God is not man's debtor. Man has no merit.

The prince of pastors, the Baptist preacher Spurgeon on the Sovereignty of God in salvation:

When we apply this truth regarding the Divine Sovereignty to man’s salvation, then we find men standing up to defend their poor fellow creatures whom they conceive to be injured by God’s predestination. But I never heard of men standing up for the devil, and yet think if any of God’s creatures have a right to complain of his dealings it is the fallen angels. For their sin they were hurled from heaven at once, and we read not that any message of mercy was ever sent to them. Once cast out, their doom was sealed; while men were respited, redemption sent into their world, and a large number of them chosen to eternal life. Why not quarrel with Sovereignty in the one case as well as the other. We say that God has elected a people out of the human race, and his right to do this is denied. But I ask, why not equally dispute the fact that God has chosen men and not fallen angels, or his justice in such a choice. If salvation be a matter of right, surely the angels had as much claim to mercy as men. Were they not seated in more than equal dignity? Did they sin more? We think not. Adam’s sin was so wilful and complete, that we cannot suppose a greater sin than that which he committed. Would not the angels who were thrust out of heaven have been of greater service to their Maker if restored, than we can ever be? Had we been the judges in this matter we might have given deliverance to angels but not to men. Admire then, Divine Sovereignty and love, that whereas the angels were broken into shivers, God hath raised an elect number of the race of men to set them among princes, through the merits of Jesus Christ our Lord.


Note again, the Divine Sovereignty, in that God chose the Israelitish race and left the Gentiles for years in darkness. Why was Israel instructed and saved, while Syria was left to perish in idolatry? Was the one race purer in its origin and better in its character than the other? Did not the Israelites take unto themselves false gods a thousand times, and provoke the true God to anger and loathing? Why then, should they be favored above their fellows? Why did the sun of heaven shine upon them while all around the nations were left in darkness, and were sinking into hell by myriads? Why? The only answer that can be given is this, that God is a Sovereign, and “will have mercy upon whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.”

 
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revduane said:
Yes He is...How?
No He isn't...Why not?

Does He have a plan for your life? What is it?
Or. Is just just cruising through space and time. Waiting to come back and punish all unbelievers, and those that didn't do His will?




:wave:

Yes!!
Our God is in control . . .:clap: but
remember, there's a WAR going on!!



The Apocolypse (Revelation) 12: 7-12


Then WAR BROKE OUT in
Heaven. Michael and his angels
battled AGAINIST the dragon. . . .
the dragon and his angels fought
back . . . woe to you earth and
sea, for the devil has come down
upon you! His fury knows no limit . . .



~Sooo, my brother, the next time it
seems like HE's not in control. . .
remember there's a WAR going on,
OVER YOUR SOUL!!:groupray:










:hug: Happy Saint Valentines' Day:hug:




:angel:
 
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Sovereign God is the absolute, infinite, unqualified ruler in all realms in heaven and earth and sea. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. God takes no orders from anyone and He has already planned out our tomorrows and holds the world in the palm of His hand. God possesses what no creature can—an incomprehensible power, potency that is absolute. God have not created us to be robots. God is not a dictator while at the same time, He uses His resources to direct us according to His will. Within certain areas of our lives, we are free to choose. Even though we are free to choose, there are times that God is involved in the direction of human history and directing us to specific, predetermined God's plans. God governs the world (Isa. 40:22-24), the nations (Isa. 40:15-17), and us (Proverbs 16:9).

Job 37:15 Do you know how God controls the clouds and makes his lightning flash?

Proverbs 20:24 A man's steps are directed by the LORD. How then can anyone understand his own way?

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases.

Jeremiah 10:23 [ Jeremiah's Prayer ] I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps.

Ezekiel 7:5 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming.

Revelation 16:9 They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

The Bible talks about that God give and take away. He allow the good and the bad to happen. Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains. There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven. There is a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return.
 
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