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Is Christianty elitist?
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<blockquote data-quote="Albion" data-source="post: 68944458" data-attributes="member: 93831"><p>Smaller...almost certainly. MUCH smaller...I don't know how we'd know. There are people, Christians, here on CF who insist that everyone will be saved through Christ, even if they have no commitment to him. And most of the rest of them would tell you that we observers have no way of knowing with absolute certainty who is a committed believer and who is only a formal follower. Good theology says that this is known only to God.</p><p></p><p>In sum, then, the "elitist" claim seems to me to be a criticism of a concept about sincerity being important, rather than a distinctive of the religion. And when you think about it, almost every other religion could be said to be "elitist" if Christianity is to be labeled as such, for I know of none that thinks merely calling oneself an adherent means much if you haven't changed anything else about yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's helpful, but the first thing that comes to mind is that one of the most popular Bible verses tells us that <em>God would have all to be saved</em>, so...?</p><p></p><p></p><p>But now you are talking about being an expert, not a disciple. Read John 3: 16 and you have the gist of the religion, almost any Christian would tell you. It could be argued that Christianity is, in fact, easier to get into than any other of the world religions. While it's true that a personal commitment to God is critical--and this is not the case with some other faiths--it's also true that the simplest people have been the most famous members of the church and we always say that what's in one's heart is what Jesus taught and we affirm.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But no one knows what the failure rate is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't remember saying that, so maybe you should refresh my memory before I comment further.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Albion, post: 68944458, member: 93831"] Smaller...almost certainly. MUCH smaller...I don't know how we'd know. There are people, Christians, here on CF who insist that everyone will be saved through Christ, even if they have no commitment to him. And most of the rest of them would tell you that we observers have no way of knowing with absolute certainty who is a committed believer and who is only a formal follower. Good theology says that this is known only to God. In sum, then, the "elitist" claim seems to me to be a criticism of a concept about sincerity being important, rather than a distinctive of the religion. And when you think about it, almost every other religion could be said to be "elitist" if Christianity is to be labeled as such, for I know of none that thinks merely calling oneself an adherent means much if you haven't changed anything else about yourself. It's helpful, but the first thing that comes to mind is that one of the most popular Bible verses tells us that [I]God would have all to be saved[/I], so...? [I][/I] But now you are talking about being an expert, not a disciple. Read John 3: 16 and you have the gist of the religion, almost any Christian would tell you. It could be argued that Christianity is, in fact, easier to get into than any other of the world religions. While it's true that a personal commitment to God is critical--and this is not the case with some other faiths--it's also true that the simplest people have been the most famous members of the church and we always say that what's in one's heart is what Jesus taught and we affirm. But no one knows what the failure rate is. I don't remember saying that, so maybe you should refresh my memory before I comment further. [/QUOTE]
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