I hate Repent of your sins to be Saved. it is a false gospel, lie from the pit of hell

[Cockcrow]

This is disgusting. Nowhere in the bible does it say the phrase repent of your sins. and nowhere does it say repent of your sins to be saved. the Bible says you must Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved, Acts 16:31 that's it. not repent from all your sins, stop sinning, give up drinking, etc. ppl add in works, Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all, these people say "repent of your sins to be saved" no you repent of your sins buddy, the sin of a false gospel being preached. being a false prophet is the worst sin there is it's this wicked works salvation garbage that people want to add works to salvation. Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all. anyone who wants to add to the simple gospel , that is wicked.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 

[Soyeong]

This is disgusting. Nowhere in the bible does it say the phrase repent of your sins. and nowhere does it say repent of your sins to be saved. the Bible says you must Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved, Acts 16:31 that's it. not repent from all your sins, stop sinning, give up drinking, etc. ppl add in works, Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all, these people say "repent of your sins to be saved" no you repent of your sins buddy, the sin of a false gospel being preached. being a false prophet is the worst sin there is it's this wicked works salvation garbage that people want to add works to salvation. Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all. anyone who wants to add to the simple gospel , that is wicked.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21), so repenting from our sins is intrinsically part of the gift of our salvation. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, so repenting from our sins is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Furthermore, in Romans 15:18-19, Paul's Gospel message involved bringing Gentiles to obedience in word and in deed, and Romans 10:16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8, and 1 Peter 4:17 all speak against those who do not obey the Gospel.

God's word is His instructions for how to believe in God's word made flesh, which is why the Bible repeatedly connects believing in God with our obedient to His commands, such as in Revelation 14:12, where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God's commandments. Our good works testify about God's goodness, which is why they bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by testifying about God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good, or another words, we are believing in Him. The Son is the exact image of God's character (Hebrews 1:3), so the way to believe in the son is by believing that we ought to be doers of his character traits in accordance with the example that he set for us to follow and in accordance with Gospel that he taught.

God is trustworthy, therefore His law is also trustworthy, so the way to have faith in God alone is by obedient obeying His law alone and it is contradictory to think that we should have faith in God, but not in His instructions. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what Jesus accomplished through the cross (Acts 21:20).

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so while we do not earn our salvation or justification as the result of having first obeyed it, living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is the nevertheless intrinsically part of the gift of him saving us from not living in obedience to it.

 

[Cockcrow]

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21), so repenting from our sins is intrinsically part of the gift of our salvation. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, so repenting from our sins is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Furthermore, in Romans 15:18-19, Paul's Gospel message involved bringing Gentiles to obedience in word and in deed, and Romans 10:16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8, and 1 Peter 4:17 all speak against those who do not obey the Gospel.

God's word is His instructions for how to believe in God's word made flesh, which is why the Bible repeatedly connects believing in God with our obedient to His commands, such as in Revelation 14:12, where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God's commandments. Our good works testify about God's goodness, which is why they bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by testifying about God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good, or another words, we are believing in Him. The Son is the exact image of God's character (Hebrews 1:3), so the way to believe in the son is by believing that we ought to be doers of his character traits in accordance with the example that he set for us to follow and in accordance with Gospel that he taught.

God is trustworthy, therefore His law is also trustworthy, so the way to have faith in God alone is by obedient obeying His law alone and it is contradictory to think that we should have faith in God, but not in His instructions. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what Jesus accomplished through the cross (Acts 21:20).

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so while we do not earn our salvation or justification as the result of having first obeyed it, living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is the nevertheless intrinsically part of the gift of him saving us from not living in obedience to it.

nope, repent of your sins is works according to Jonah 3:10. and we are not saved by works. Jesus did all the work, we just believe on him. Jesus paid it all

 

[Lukaris]

No repentance must be news to the Lord especially regarding the Ninevites.

Luke 11:30-32, Luke 13:1-5, etc.

 

[Cockcrow]

No repentance must be news to the Lord especially regarding the Ninevites.

Luke 11:30-32, Luke 13:1-5, etc.

repent means change of mind. not "of your sins" those verses say nothing about repeting of sins for eternal life, salvation.

 

[Soyeong]

nope, repent of your sins is works according to Jonah 3:10. and we are not saved by works. Jesus did all the work, we just believe on him. Jesus paid it all

Our salvation from sin would be incomplete if we were only saved from the penalty of our sin while we continued to live in sin, so there must also be an aspect of our salvation that we are experiencing in the present. In Titus 2:11-13, it describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so we are not required to have first done those works in order to earn our salvation as the result and we are not required to do those works as the result of having first been saved, but rather God graciously teaching us to experience doing those works is itself the content of His gift of saving us from not having that experience. So while the Bible denies that we can earn our salvation as the result of our works, it does not deny that our works are intrinsically part of God's gift of salvation.

A gift can itself be the experience of doing something, such as giving someone the opportunity to experience driving a Ferrari for an hour, where the gift requires them to do the work of driving it in order to have that experience, but where doing that work does not detract from the fact that the gift was completely paid for by someone else. Similarly, the content of God's gift of eternal life is the experience of knowing Him and Jesus (John 17:3) and the gift of God's law is His instructions for how to have that experience (Exodus 33:13, Matthew 7:23), not for how to earn our salvation as the result. There are many verses that say that the way to have eternal life is by believing in Jesus and many verses that say that the way to inherit eternal life is by obeying God's commandments, which again is because God's commandments are His instructions for how to believe in Jesus.

 

[Laeomis]

This is disgusting. Nowhere in the bible does it say the phrase repent of your sins. and nowhere does it say repent of your sins to be saved. the Bible says you must Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved, Acts 16:31 that's it. not repent from all your sins, stop sinning, give up drinking, etc. ppl add in works, Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all, these people say "repent of your sins to be saved" no you repent of your sins buddy, the sin of a false gospel being preached. being a false prophet is the worst sin there is it's this wicked works salvation garbage that people want to add works to salvation. Jonah 3:10 says turning from evil way is works. salvation is faith alone, Jesus paid it all. anyone who wants to add to the simple gospel , that is wicked.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

It does say to repent of your sins in the Bible. An example would be in the warnings to the 7 churches in Revelation. Jesus Christ repeatedly warns the 7 churches to repent of specific issues that they get. These warnings were to Christians, and not the unbelieving. (Revelation 2:5) (Revelation 2:14-16) (Revelation 2:21-23) (Revelation 3:3) (Revelation 3:19-20)

 

[Cockcrow]

Our salvation from sin would be incomplete if we were only saved from the penalty of our sin while we continued to live in sin, so there must also be an aspect of our salvation that we are experiencing in the present. In Titus 2:11-13, it describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so we are not required to have first done those works in order to earn our salvation as the result and we are not required to do those works as the result of having first been saved, but rather God graciously teaching us to experience doing those works is itself the content of His gift of saving us from not having that experience. So while the Bible denies that we can earn our salvation as the result of our works, it does not deny that our works are intrinsically part of God's gift of salvation.

A gift can itself be the experience of doing something, such as giving someone the opportunity to experience driving a Ferrari for an hour, where the gift requires them to do the work of driving it in order to have that experience, but where doing that work does not detract from the fact that the gift was completely paid for by someone else. Similarly, the content of God's gift of eternal life is the experience of knowing Him and Jesus (John 17:3) and the gift of God's law is His instructions for how to have that experience (Exodus 33:13, Matthew 7:23), not for how to earn our salvation as the result. There are many verses that say that the way to have eternal life is by believing in Jesus and many verses that say that the way to inherit eternal life is by obeying God's commandments, which again is because God's commandments are His instructions for how to believe in Jesus.

Salvation is a free gift. Romans 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans 5:16 “And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.”

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Romans 4:5 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[Cockcrow]

It does say to repent of your sins in the Bible. An example would be in the warnings to the 7 churches in Revelation. Jesus Christ repeatedly warns the 7 churches to repent of specific issues that they get. These warnings were to Christians, and not the unbelieving. (Revelation 2:5) (Revelation 2:14-16) (Revelation 2:21-23) (Revelation 3:3) (Revelation 3:19-20)

Not a requirement for salvation or eternal life. and no the phrase "repent of your sins" is not there

 

[Laeomis]

Not a requirement for salvation or eternal life. and no the phrase "repent of your sins" is not there

I think if anyone is truly sincere about their love for Jesus Christ, then they will end up repenting anyway.

 

[Cockcrow]

I think if anyone is truly sincere about their love for Jesus Christ, then they will end up repenting anyway.

ok, but if they don't... his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 4:5 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

 

[Soyeong]

Salvation is a free gift. Romans 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans 5:16 “And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.”

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Romans 4:5 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

I agree that salvation is a free gift and I made the point that gifts can require works that are intrinsic to what the gift is.

The only way to attain a character trait is through faith that we ought to be doers of that character trait apart from being required to have first done that character trait for a certain amount as if it could be earned as a wage. Becoming someone who has a character trait through faith means becoming a doer of that trait through faith, so it is contradictory to become someone who has a character trait apart from becoming someone who is a doer of that trait.

For example, courageousness is not something that can be earned as a wage as the result of having first done a certain amount of courageous works, but rather the only way to become courageous is through faith that we ought to be doers of courageous works. Becoming courageous means becoming someone who is a doer of courageous works and it would be contradictory for someone to become courageous apart from becoming a doer of courageous works, and the same is true for righteousness. This is why the same faith by which we are declared righteous does not abolish our need to be doers of righteous works, but rather our faith uphold it (Romans 3:28-31).

To say that God is righteous means that He is a doer of righteous works, so the gift of righteousness is the gift of becoming a doer of righteous works. The way to believe in God is by believing that we ought to be doers of His character traits.

 

[Lukaris]

repent means change of mind. not "of your sins" those verses say nothing about repeting of sins for eternal life, salvation.

If a person does not repent then one is refusing the Lord’s gift of salvation

Luke 24:44-47, Romans 2:1-6, Acts 3:13-21, Romans 10:9-13, Acts 26:20, Ephesians 2:8-10 etc.

A repentant believer should know that a branch abides in the true vine ( per John 15:1-10. Whatever we do right it is by grace for without the Lord we can do nothing ( see John 15:5 in particular).




And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things

 

[bling]

You make a good point it is not repenting of our sins (we do not have the power to do that prior to becoming a saved Christian. The repenting is turning from one sin to another sin (selfishly seeking a better yet totally undeserved life).
We enter this world as innocent babies, but if we live long enough to reach our age of accountability, we sin. Sinning automatically makes us a slave of satan (we are slaves of who we obey). As a good soldier of satan, I can still wimp out, give up and surrender to my enemy God, even though I am still hating God (soldiers who surrender are not joining their enemy). The fact that I an just willing to humbly accept pure undeserved charity from my hate enemy (God) allows God to shower me with unbelievable wonderful gift.

 

[Cockcrow]

I agree that salvation is a free gift and I made the point that gifts can require works that are intrinsic to what the gift is.

The only way to attain a character trait is through faith that we ought to be doers of that character trait apart from being required to have first done that character trait for a certain amount as if it could be earned as a wage. Becoming someone who has a character trait through faith means becoming a doer of that trait through faith, so it is contradictory to become someone who has a character trait apart from becoming someone who is a doer of that trait.

For example, courageousness is not something that can be earned as a wage as the result of having first done a certain amount of courageous works, but rather the only way to become courageous is through faith that we ought to be doers of courageous works. Becoming courageous means becoming someone who is a doer of courageous works and it would be contradictory for someone to become courageous apart from becoming a doer of courageous works, and the same is true for righteousness. This is why the same faith by which we are declared righteous does not abolish our need to be doers of righteous works, but rather our faith uphold it (Romans 3:28-31).

To say that God is righteous means that He is a doer of righteous works, so the gift of righteousness is the gift of becoming a doer of righteous works. The way to believe in God is by believing that we ought to be doers of His character traits.

If you have to do works, then that is not a free gift. Romans 11:6 “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

I agree that a believer *should* do works like read the bible, clean up life, confess and forsake our sins die daily take up the cross. but what MUST we do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.


Acts 16:30-31 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

[Soyeong]

If you have to do works, then that is not a free gift. Romans 11:6 “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

Please interact with the example that I gave of giving the opportunity to experience driving a Ferrari to someone as a free gift, where the gift requires them to do the work of driving it in order to have that experience, but where doing that work does not detract from it being given to them as a free gift.

Grace is a gift and gifts are incompatible with works insofar as those works are done to earn a wage (Romans 11:6), however, works can be done for other reasons that are compatible with grace, which is why there are many verses where God is gracious to us by teaching us to obey His law (Psalms 119:29, Exodus 33:13, Genesis 6:8-9, Romans 1:5, Titus 2:11-13).

I agree that a believer *should* do works like read the bible, clean up life, confess and forsake our sins die daily take up the cross. but what MUST we do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.


Acts 16:30-31 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

There is a difference between the way to become righteous and what we are becoming when we become righteous. The only way to become righteous is by faith and what we are becoming when we become righteous is someone who is a doer of righteous works. That is intrinsically part of what it means to be righteous, not just something that someone who is righteous should do.

Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so while we do not earn our salvation as the result of having first obeyed it, living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is intrinsically the content of the gift of him saving us from not living in obedience to it. In Titus 2:11-13, it describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do those works, so having the experience of doing those works is intrinsically part of what the gift of salvation is. For example, having the experience of honoring our parents through faith in Jesus is the way that he is saving us from not having that experience, which requires us to honor our parents.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

My issue is with those who say you must repent from all sin before you can be saved. It cannot be done. If an unsaved/unregenerate person could successfully repent from all sin before being born again, that would indicate they are already godly and do not need to be saved. The only thing that will happen if you try to repent from sin before you are born again is you will fail. That is by design. The whole purpose is to show you that you cannot be saved by the law, not because it is bad, but because you cannot do it!
After you are born again, you have the seed of God in your spirit and the potential to be godly.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Acts 2:38

 

[Cockcrow]

My issue is with those who say you must repent from all sin before you can be saved. It cannot be done. If an unsaved/unregenerate person could successfully repent from all sin before being born again, that would indicate they are already godly and do not need to be saved. The only thing that will happen if you try to repent from sin before you are born again is you will fail. That is by design. The whole purpose is to show you that you cannot be saved by the law, not because it is bad, but because you cannot do it!
After you are born again, you have the seed of God in your spirit and the potential to be godly.

and it takes the glory away from Jesus, what Jesus did on the cross, and his death burial resurecction, and it places all the emphasis on the indiviudal. Jesus death wasn't enough, you have to keep the commandments, keep doing works until the end. the gospel is all about you doing the works instead of Jesus paid it all. also yes it is unrealistic because we sin everyday even the thought of foolishness is sin and James 2:10 says "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." Galatians 5:3 “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.”

if people want to keep the law for salvation, they have to keep all the laws perfectly which is impossible because only God is good and for people to say they don't sin or they turned from all sins, would be calling themselves God which is blasphemy (a sin).

And to those who say "I don't sin anymore" or "I turned from my sin, I don't even have the temptation to sin, when I got saved it all went away" the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

 

[Cockcrow]

Acts 2:38

does not say repent of your sins to be saved. also earlier in that chapter in Acts 2:21 it says "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."