Over the years I have been convinced of creation, at least that evolution is not true, that is a conclusion that I have reached after examining the evidence for many years. However, creationists cannot explain how starlight could have reached the earth, in the 6000 years that they quote.
Most people nowadays think that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, and a galaxy has been observed recently which is dated at 13.3 billion light years away, and can only be seen because of the lensing effect; the bending of space. Whatever the age of the universe, it must be very huge, because galaxies are very distant, and light is set at a specific speed, even if it is not fixed.
However, when it comes to the age of the earth, there is a lot of evidence that the earth is young, and so is our solar system. The moon is moving away from the earth, as just one example. I believe there was a global flood, about 4000 years ago, again from examining the evidence. I think the bible is reliable as history, as far as how/where humans originated.
I have been thinking about echolocation insectivorous type bats. They have done studies on a type of bat in Panama, which can echo-locate to such a level of precision, that it can distinguish between different sizes of frogs, to determine roughly the species, and then it does a quick chemical test, to check if the frog is poisonous before eating it.
Bats hunt insects and can also hunt fish, by detecting the ripples on a pond or river surface, and then scoop the fish out with their talons. This is all very sophisticated, and would seem to have been designed for hunting, from the beginning.
Although creationists identify that this was not the product of evolution, they seem to forget that they claim that there was no death, before the fall. But there must have been. It was part of creation from the beginning.
Also, I read that Steve Irwin was killed by a stingray, and they have a venomous spine, which they use to attack victims, suddenly, and are considered by many to be very dangerous and unpredictable. Creationists were saying that the venomous spine was created like that, because God knew that there would be a fall, and they would need to have self-defence. That seems like rubbish to me. It was there from the beginning of creation, and seems to be rather a malevolent feature.
And then there’s the spiders web, which I’ve mentioned before; it must have been an original design to hunt insects, what other use could a web have?
So in my opinion, there was death, right from the beginning. People and animals, before the flood lived a very long time, and grew to very large sizes (not the humans) but then they eventually expired.
Where does it say in the bible that there was no death before the fall? It says that Adam and Eve would die, if they ate the forbidden fruit. I suppose that’s possible, but what about the inevitable overpopulation, if everyone lived forever? Doesn’t make any sense, if you take it literally. I don’t know what the answer is.
How old is the earth? The radiometric dating that they use is proved to be unreliable. The old earthers are relying on this data, and seem to ignore the various proofs that the earth is young, but how could the earth be young, if the universe is old?
A lot of people seem to be convinced that the universe started in the big bang. I don’t believe in a ‘creation’, without God, that is absurd. But maybe the universe was created ex nihilo, from some particular point in space. Although I have read a lot of good evidence that the earth is the centre of the universe… yes, the geocentric model of the universe is still not disproved.
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
The Gnostics believed that the creation of the earth was a huge mistake, made by the Demiurge, a god (Yahweh) who thought that he was God Almighty, but wasn’t; he was an emanation from the real God.
I don’t go along with that idea. I think that when they said that the creation was very good, that it wasn’t really, and we just have to get used to the idea, that the creation is the way it is, and was from the start.
Jesus offered no explanation, because nobody asked him about it. If there was a fall, and some sort of corruption of creation, then there was still death from the beginning, but perhaps not all the aging and disease, and predation that we now have.
It seems to be rather confrontational between creationists and mainstream science. I think that is perhaps not going to resolve anything, at least regarding astronomy and the age of the universe. Perhaps creationists need to investigate if there is a reason why so many scientists have reached the conclusions about this subject.
What do you think?
Most people nowadays think that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, and a galaxy has been observed recently which is dated at 13.3 billion light years away, and can only be seen because of the lensing effect; the bending of space. Whatever the age of the universe, it must be very huge, because galaxies are very distant, and light is set at a specific speed, even if it is not fixed.
However, when it comes to the age of the earth, there is a lot of evidence that the earth is young, and so is our solar system. The moon is moving away from the earth, as just one example. I believe there was a global flood, about 4000 years ago, again from examining the evidence. I think the bible is reliable as history, as far as how/where humans originated.
I have been thinking about echolocation insectivorous type bats. They have done studies on a type of bat in Panama, which can echo-locate to such a level of precision, that it can distinguish between different sizes of frogs, to determine roughly the species, and then it does a quick chemical test, to check if the frog is poisonous before eating it.
Bats hunt insects and can also hunt fish, by detecting the ripples on a pond or river surface, and then scoop the fish out with their talons. This is all very sophisticated, and would seem to have been designed for hunting, from the beginning.
Although creationists identify that this was not the product of evolution, they seem to forget that they claim that there was no death, before the fall. But there must have been. It was part of creation from the beginning.
Also, I read that Steve Irwin was killed by a stingray, and they have a venomous spine, which they use to attack victims, suddenly, and are considered by many to be very dangerous and unpredictable. Creationists were saying that the venomous spine was created like that, because God knew that there would be a fall, and they would need to have self-defence. That seems like rubbish to me. It was there from the beginning of creation, and seems to be rather a malevolent feature.
And then there’s the spiders web, which I’ve mentioned before; it must have been an original design to hunt insects, what other use could a web have?
So in my opinion, there was death, right from the beginning. People and animals, before the flood lived a very long time, and grew to very large sizes (not the humans) but then they eventually expired.
Where does it say in the bible that there was no death before the fall? It says that Adam and Eve would die, if they ate the forbidden fruit. I suppose that’s possible, but what about the inevitable overpopulation, if everyone lived forever? Doesn’t make any sense, if you take it literally. I don’t know what the answer is.
How old is the earth? The radiometric dating that they use is proved to be unreliable. The old earthers are relying on this data, and seem to ignore the various proofs that the earth is young, but how could the earth be young, if the universe is old?
A lot of people seem to be convinced that the universe started in the big bang. I don’t believe in a ‘creation’, without God, that is absurd. But maybe the universe was created ex nihilo, from some particular point in space. Although I have read a lot of good evidence that the earth is the centre of the universe… yes, the geocentric model of the universe is still not disproved.
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
The Gnostics believed that the creation of the earth was a huge mistake, made by the Demiurge, a god (Yahweh) who thought that he was God Almighty, but wasn’t; he was an emanation from the real God.
I don’t go along with that idea. I think that when they said that the creation was very good, that it wasn’t really, and we just have to get used to the idea, that the creation is the way it is, and was from the start.
Jesus offered no explanation, because nobody asked him about it. If there was a fall, and some sort of corruption of creation, then there was still death from the beginning, but perhaps not all the aging and disease, and predation that we now have.
It seems to be rather confrontational between creationists and mainstream science. I think that is perhaps not going to resolve anything, at least regarding astronomy and the age of the universe. Perhaps creationists need to investigate if there is a reason why so many scientists have reached the conclusions about this subject.
What do you think?
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