How much is an Iraqi's life worth?

[Jacey]

A good piece on The forgotten victims of the Iraq War

Bush cannot mention them because the invasion had no grounds. Neither weapons of mass destruction nor proof of an imminent threat was found. Bush cannot mention them because he knows a needless invasion was not worth up to 10,000 Iraqi civilians killed by US and British forces. He cannot mention them because it would only bring attention to the paltry and peculiar way the United States pays victims and the families of victims for the injuries and fatalities suffered at our hands.

Wife, three kids worth $5,000

Thoughts anyone?

I'm fairly disgusted, and that's putting it nicely.

 

[AsburyJuke]

Pretty sick, I agree.

I wonder how much Bush or Rumsfeld would value their own lives? What would be the reaction if terrorists offered our families money in compensation?

 

[elanor]

Is this true!? This is appalling!

 

[Yitzchak]

I prefer to look at the glass as halffull. I was against the invasion but I wonder if paying for civilian casualties has been done before? If not, this is a huge step in the right direction. Uping the amount would be a good second step.

 

[datan]

Pretty sick, I agree.

I wonder how much Bush or Rumsfeld would value their own lives? What would be the reaction if terrorists offered our families money in compensation?

Lockerbie bombing -- each American life is worth $10 million.

 

[mikefromwichita]

Does anyone have any idea how many Iraqis Saddam killed during his last 12 months in Power? Surely a number far in excess of the 10000 killed by American arms and that figure is probably overstated anyway. Civilians die in each and every Warever fought. American and the Brits should be cheered for their heroic efforts to keep those numbers small. The bottom line is that the USA invasion of Iraqi has saved more lives than it has taken.

 

[Yitzchak]

Does anyone have any idea how many Iraqis Saddam killed during his last 12 months in Power? Surely a number far in excess of the 10000 killed by American arms and that figure is probably overstated anyway. Civilians die in each and every Warever fought. American and the Brits should be cheered for their heroic efforts to keep those numbers small. The bottom line is that the USA invasion of Iraqi has saved more lives than it has taken.

I agree with looking at the glass as half full on this one.

 

[Jacey]

Does anyone have any idea how many Iraqis Saddam killed during his last 12 months in Power? Surely a number far in excess of the 10000 killed by American arms and that figure is probably overstated anyway. Civilians die in each and every Warever fought. American and the Brits should be cheered for their heroic efforts to keep those numbers small. The bottom line is that the USA invasion of Iraqi has saved more lives than it has taken.

And this addresses my OP how..........?

 

[Ampmonster]

when i consider everything, i still approve of the ousting of Saddam.
and it's not because im some uberBushfanatic

 

[Yitzchak]

when i consider everything, i still approve of the ousting of Saddam.
and it's not because im some uberBushfanatic

I am glad that he is gone. I just don't approve ofthe methods used to oust him. It reminds me of legislative bills which in order to be passed have all kinds of attachments sent along as a part of dealmaking and paybacks between lawmakers. Most of the time the attachments are not even related to the main bill being passed. Even so with the war in iraq.

 

[Ampmonster]

i hear you man.

both the sabres and the isles are winning tonight so well have to wait until th last game to see iff the sabres made it.

***sorry other posters, this was slightly OT, my and Yitz are hockey fans.

 

[Yitzchak]

i hear you man.

both the sabres and the isles are winning tonight so well have to wait until th last game to see iff the sabres made it.

***sorry other posters, this was slightly OT, my and Yitz are hockey fans.

go sabres

 

[mikefromwichita]

And this addresses my OP how..........?

By pointing out that being conquered by the USA is a step up for Iraq.

 

[MatthewG215]

I prefer to look at the glass as halffull. I was against the invasion but I wonder if paying for civilian casualties has been done before? If not, this is a huge step in the right direction. Uping the amount would be a good second step.

I'm sorry that I dont have the exact numbers, but during the Vietnam War, the reparations paid for every rubber tree was 2 to 1 for every human casualty.

 

[Jacey]

By pointing out that being conquered by the USA is a step up for Iraq.

I'm sure the dead people think so.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

How about Afghanistan? Any ciivlian casualties there? Why aren't we protesting the fighting over there?
Iraq is a political focal point because Bush may or may not have been wrong for going over there. So now we suddenly have a war that is worse than others going on elsewhere.
How much are non-Iraqi casualties worth? Obviously not enough to even get a mention in a liberal rag from Boston.

Can we say sensationalism?

I don't know about the rest of you but I never expected we would go to war without some civilian casualties. I am surprised, however that we are prepared to make financial "restitution".

Seems a little bizarre to me. Maybe we should pay Germany for all the lives we took during WWII. And Viet Nam, Korea, etc...

Anyone read about the Airman killed yesterday? or the 5 soldiers killed today? Of course, they don't matter because it was us who invaded Iraq so we must deserve what we get right?

It's war. What we do in war is kill. It is extremely unfortunate that we can't evacuate an entire nation with hte exception of it's military before we go in.

I'm relatively sure that our government isn't trying to make the statement that a life is worth a dollar amount. And I'm just as sure that Bush doesn't make those decisions on his own as much as we would like to hold him personally responsible.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

I'm sure the dead people think so.

I'll bet the one's that were killed by Saddam wish we were there sooner.

 

[praying]

How about Afghanistan? Any ciivlian casualties there? Why aren't we protesting the fighting over there?
Iraq is a political focal point because Bush may or may not have been wrong for going over there. So now we suddenly have a war that is worse than others going on elsewhere.
How much are non-Iraqi casualties worth? Obviously not enough to even get a mention in a liberal rag from Boston.

Can we say sensationalism?

I don't know about the rest of you but I never expected we would go to war without some civilian casualties. I am surprised, however that we are prepared to make financial "restitution".

Seems a little bizarre to me. Maybe we should pay Germany for all the lives we took during WWII. And Viet Nam, Korea, etc...

Anyone read about the Airman killed yesterday? or the 5 soldiers killed today? Of course, they don't matter because it was us who invaded Iraq so we must deserve what we get right?

It's war. What we do in war is kill. It is extremely unfortunate that we can't evacuate an entire nation with hte exception of it's military before we go in.

I'm relatively sure that our government isn't trying to make the statement that a life is worth a dollar amount. And I'm just as sure that Bush doesn't make those decisions on his own as much as we would like to hold him personally responsible.

Muzik, it's US policy, they are doing the same in Afghanistan. They did it in Germany, Japan everywhere.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Muzik, it's US policy, they are doing the same in Afghanistan. They did it in Germany, Japan everywhere.

Yeah, my fingers got ahead of my brain on that one. I heard that before but I don't remember things as well these days. I've been in some pain.

I still stand behind the rest of my "sharp as a marble" opinion though.

 

[faerieevaH]

The best statement in regards to this I've ever heard was at a student debate. The first student concluded a very fine argument with the words: collateral damage is inavoidable. You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.

It sounded really great. His oponent simply stated this.
"People are not eggs."
No matter how many lives Saddam took, it doesn't justify the needless taking of the lives of innocent civilians. The fact that someone does something that is horrible isn't justified by someone else doing things even worse.
And even when it is said that this war was 'needed' and the people now are liberated, there are many instances in which more precautions could be taken to spare lives. It seems however that the life of an American soldier is worth more then the life of an Iraqi civilian. And that is where the reasoning goes awry.