Home Secretary: I smoked cannabis

[Allister]

such as the American's removing the letter U from almost every word where it follows a O. Colour becomes color, flavour becomes flavor, honour becomes honor etc. I think myself and my fellow Brits still pronounce the U. Pronounced "Cull-Ur", not "Cull-Or".

 

[MasterK]

Vaporize

 

[marshlewis]

such as the American's removing the letter U from almost every word where it follows a O. Colour becomes color, flavour becomes flavor, honour becomes honor etc. I think myself and my fellow Brits still pronounce the U. Pronounced "Cull-Ur", not "Cull-Or".

If the US pronounced it the same way they would probably spell it colur.

 

[Allister]

Vaporize

True, why change all S's to Z's. It messes up my Firefox spell checker.

the letter Z is pronunced Zed not Zee.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

Well, we can't allow for total freedom.

HAha, the second one is wearing a Nirvana shirt. There's a joke in there, somewhere.

 

[marshlewis]

True, why change all S's to Z's. It messes up my Firefox spell checker.

the letter Z is pronunced Zed not Zee.

This is a point that Ive come across before. A friend of mine from Crewe always pronounced his g's hard. sin -ginga for singing. To me this just adds extra constanants to a word. (Im from NZ and all our ng's are soft).
I live in Australia and here they follow the british practice of calling the letter H as if it were a word like 'hache'. In NZ they say A i ch, a soft sound. In use its almost Identical as the hache sound.

To me the letter Z is pronounced Zzz, no vowls involved and the letter itself is pronounced Zee.
US spelling is more phonetic than English spelling. Not by much but it is.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

Can't. Too integrated into our culture.
Besides, small amounts of alcohol is healthy. The same cannot be said for Cannabis.

Besides, there's no real reason why we should allow more recreational drugs, is there?
We have enough problems with alcohol. Why increase availability of other drugs when all these can do - at best - is to substitute one problem for another? Most likely just add another problem to an already existing one.

You approach the subject from the perspective of government controlling everything and then deciding on which issues to "allow" people liberty. Why not start with liberty and then decide which things are essential for government to control? Start with all things legal and make the case for government action against cannabis.

 

[thenewageriseth]

http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/marijuana.asp?id=smoking

Just a website I happened upon today on the net.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/marijuana.asp?id=smoking

Just a website I happened upon today on the net.

What a joke.

"Most teens don't even know that marijuana use can hurt their grades and SAT scores"...not surprising that they don't 'know' this given that it's a total lie.

 

[thenewageriseth]

What a joke.

"Most teens don't even know that marijuana use can hurt their grades and SAT scores"...not surprising that they don't 'know' this given that it's a total lie.

Hmm...really? :scratches:
Well...either way I'd stay away from that wacky stuff.
I'm emotional and nervous enough.

 

[TheReasoner]

What a joke.

"Most teens don't even know that marijuana use can hurt their grades and SAT scores"...not surprising that they don't 'know' this given that it's a total lie.

Sure that's a lie. Just like gravity.



Maybe you shouldn't accept all the propaganda you read as facts.

 

[Museveni]

Isnt there like Zero cases of people actully ODing on Marijuna? Also your avarage ciggaret is alot more dangerous then a joint.

Still I dont drink(coffee,tea,alcohol),smoke(anything) or do drugs myself so got no first hand experience. Werent there a study awhile back though that showed that sugar was +100times more addictive then any "natural" drug(not the lab stuff)?

 

[TheReasoner]

Isnt there like Zero cases of people actully ODing on Marijuna? Also your avarage ciggaret is alot more dangerous then a joint.

Still I dont drink(coffee,tea,alcohol),smoke(anything) or do drugs myself so got no first hand experience. Werent there a study awhile back though that showed that sugar was +100times more addictive then any "natural" drug(not the lab stuff)?

Sources on danger of cigarrettes relative to marijuana?

Do you really believe that because there are no registered ODs on Cannabis that automatically means it is harmless?
How many have ODed on Nicotine from smoking cigarettes? If you take nicotine intravenously it is lethal. I am fairly sure THC would be lethal too, intravenously.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Maybe you shouldn't accept all the propaganda you read as facts.

Right back at you. Whether they admit it or not, most people that are against cannabis legalisation, including most in this thread, do not base their beliefs on serious studies but on vague feelings that cannabis is wrong because of government propaganda.

 

[TheReasoner]

Right back at you. Whether they admit it or not, most people that are against cannabis legalisation, including most in this thread, do not base their beliefs on serious studies but on vague feelings that cannabis is wrong because of government propaganda.

I'm no expert, but I don't take a stance lightly. Though I am prepared to abandon a stance if I am proven wrong. Which I have not been in this case.
I am surprised at how many believe half-truths and outright lies though. Like it being "anti carcinogenic"... Where would anyone get such an idea? It's ludicrous.
I have been to plenty of lectures on the subject, and I have read up on it before I took a stance. I'm against legalization. But for medical use.
What I am for is a HARD crackdown on producers of harder drugs. I don't say this lightly...

Hard drugs producers are an enemy we need to take seriously. Not only are the drugs they sell often used to purchase arms and fund terror or warfare destabilizing nations in other parts of the world, they are also harming our economy and killing our civilians. Causing crime to rise and aspects of society to destabilize. As such it needs a stronger focus by the politicians and military leadership, and it is my expressed opinion that as such a threat the UN should utilize lethal force in the termination of this. It should be made a high priority - and though it will cost human lives, the drug production and trafficking should be stopped. It is my opinion that this enemy needs to face the consequences any enemy using conventional means to achieve the same goal would face - the barrel of a gun, and the projectiles coming from said barrel.
As a soldier I was itching to be put into combat. Use my training. And if I could choose, I would choose this fight. This enemy.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I am surprised at how many believe half-truths and outright lies though. Like it being "anti carcinogenic"... Where would anyone get such an idea?

From a myriad of independent scientific studies, that's where. I never said that smoking cannabis cured cancer, nor even that the overall effect of smoking cannabis was anti-carcinogenic. What I said was that many chemicals in marijuana are known anti-carcinogens.

As I'm on lunch at work, I can't access the relevant online sources as the word 'marijuana' is filtered from URLs. But I can provide links later.

 

[TheReasoner]

From a myriad of independent scientific studies, that's where. I never said that smoking cannabis cured cancer, nor even that the overall effect of smoking cannabis was anti-carcinogenic. What I said was that many chemicals in marijuana are known anti-carcinogens.

As I'm on lunch at work, I can't access the relevant online sources as the word 'marijuana' is filtered from URLs. But I can provide links later.

Please do

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Sorry it took so long...was busy finally turning 18 and making a (Thursday to Sunday) weekend of it.

Anyhoo, certain chemicals in cannabis would seem to reduce tumours in lab rats.

Another very large study found no link between cannabis use and lung cancer.

Other studies have found otherwise...but to suggest that the majority of studies have found significant harm as a result of cannabis is untrue. Most have found the exact opposite.

Of course, one study against hundreds will then have its claims exaggerated, and we get such rubbish as 'one joint gives you a 40% chance of getting scizophrenia'.