Hate crimes

[Canuckmom]

Urgent, full-court press for 'hate crimes' bill

Are y'all aware of this hate crimes bill? It would make it possible for pastors to be prosecuted for speaking out against perversion. I haven't seen the mainstream media covering it.

 

[CruciFixed]

Oh that's just disgusting. What's going on?!

 

[Lady Bug]

Oh that's just disgusting. What's going on?!

I don't know, I keep asking myself am I dreaming...
the govt is now trying to infiltrate the churches now I guess

 

[CruciFixed]

=\ What happened to free speech or are only liberals entitled to speak anymore?

 

[Lady Bug]

=\ What happened to free speech or are only liberals entitled to speak anymore?

I guess they are only tolerant of those who they THINK are tolerant but that is a big double standard here. it's really, really weird...the "pioneers" of "freedom and equality" are trying to quell one group's freedom. If someone is trying to stop the Taliban from practicing their ideologies, maybe some people would be safer, but liberals don't care about groups like that. They act like Christians are the number one bad guys.

 

[CruciFixed]

Hey some liberals claim they are Christians. The other night I was in a liberal debate...I've lost interest...about "Do unto others as you'd have done to you." Why don't they take their own advice? Let us talk since you wanna talk. Maybe they like the sounds of their own voices.

 

[Zecryphon]

Urgent, full-court press for 'hate crimes' bill

Are y'all aware of this hate crimes bill? It would make it possible for pastors to be prosecuted for speaking out against perversion. I haven't seen the mainstream media covering it.[/quote

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Even if it passes, Obama can still veto it. Given his Christian views on gay marriage, it's possible that he could veto this bill as he sees that behavior as immoral too.

 

[Zecryphon]

I guess they are only tolerant of those who they THINK are tolerant but that is a big double standard here. it's really, really weird...the "pioneers" of "freedom and equality" are trying to quell one group's freedom. If someone is trying to stop the Taliban from practicing their ideologies, maybe some people would be safer, but liberals don't care about groups like that. They act like Christians are the number one bad guys.

The liberals should care what the Taliban thinks about homosexuals. I believe the punishment for such behavior in the Quran is death, not just saying homosexual sex is a sin, the way Christians do. If liberals actually had to deal with Muslims on this issue, they'd get a real wake-up call. Christians are the least of their problems when it comes to opponents of homosexual activity.

 

[E.C.]

"It's the end of the world as we know it..."

Great R.E.M. song.

 

[Zecryphon]

"It's the end of the world as we know it..."

Great R.E.M. song.

Yeah, but nobody can sing along to it, as evidenced in Tommy Boy. LOL

 

[ladyt28]

This bill has been in the making for awhile.

 

[Zecryphon]

This bill has been in the making for awhile.

Then I'm sure the ACLJ is all over it.

 

[Cris413]

I posted this in another forum...same topic

Interesting symposium on Hate Crime and the possible effect on the Church...there are a few more parts on YouTube if anyone is interested in seeing the rest of of the vids.

YouTube - ASSAULT ON LIBERTY OF AMERICA ( HATE CRIME LAWS )!! / PART 1

 

[Cris413]

Yes...this legislation has been offered up and turned down several times in the past...and it keeps rearing it's ugly head with new tweaks and twists...

Here's another tidbit I came across a couple days ago:



Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 4/24/2009 7:05:00 AM

A Democratic congresswoman's candid remarks in the House Judiciary Committee yesterday bolster the fears of Americans who are concerned they one day may be convicted of a "hate crime" for merely publicly expressing their opposition to homosexuality.

The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act was reported out of the Judiciary Committee yesterday in the House (see earlier story). The bill, which is expected to face a vote in the full House on Wednesday, would add gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, and disability to the list of protected categories under federal hate crimes law.

Proponents of the hate crimes bill claim that Christians and others who speak out publicly against homosexuality are not threatened with the same type of prosecution that criminals would face for committing acts of violence against homosexuals and transgender people.

In response, Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers (D-Michigan), a co-sponsor of the measure, stated: "The bill only applies to bias-motivated violent crimes and does not impinge public speech or writing in any way."

However, during the Judiciary Committee markup yesterday, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas) reinforced the notion that people could be prosecuted for having a particular belief. "We also need to protect those potential victims who may be the recipients of hateful words or hateful acts, or even violent acts," said the Democratic lawmaker.

Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), a former judge, offered several amendments that would have provided religious-freedom protections from hate crimes prosecution, but they were all rejected by Democrats on the Judiciary Committee.

 

[Cris413]

The U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote today on
The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (H.R. 1913)

I guess we’ll soon see whether or not it passes this time around.

 

[Sketcher]

Hate crime legislation only punishes ideology, which is un-American to the core. I guess Mr. Conyers only wants to protect some ideologies (such as those who want to burn flags in protest) but not others.

 

[E.C.]

What gets me is now we can be accused of a "hate crime" if we say "I disagree with homosexuality", yet the KKK is protected by the police whenever they hold rallies that target Jews, Roman Catholics, non-WASPs, liberals and homosexuals.

Sad and selective, ain't it?

 

[Cris413]

The verbiage of this legislation really concerns me..."attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived..."

I mean...a lot of the verbiage is highly susceptable to very vague interpretation.

 

[Cris413]

Hate crime legislation only punishes ideology, which is un-American to the core. I guess Mr. Conyers only wants to protect some ideologies (such as those who want to burn flags in protest) but not others.

Right...and I do kinda wonder...if this passes...is there reason to be concerned that certain militant groups that fall under the same umbrella of the “protected” groups....might somehow feel more even empowered to be more disruptive and militant than they already are?

 

[Sketcher]

Right...and I do kinda wonder...if this passes...is there reason to be concerned that certain militant groups that fall under the same umbrella of the “protected” groups....might somehow feel more even empowered to be more disruptive and militant than they already are?

As long as they have their friends in Washington, I don't see why not. And no matter how Washington changes, it's always going to be like this. The beneficiaries may change, depending on circumstances. This is not a reason to hope, it is just a further decline of America. This only serves to marginalize and divide people, while undermining First Amendment rights.