- - Actually, the sun is a star, just like all the other stars in the universe. The only thing "special" about it is that it's the star that is "connected" to earth.
- - Where did you get this? (And assuming you didn't get it from the Bible, the rest of that paragraph about Enoch is "too far out".)
- - No he didn't, and they aren't, as any Jr. High astronomy student knows.
- - Wrong again. Stars are not light conductors; they do indeed generate their own heat/light through nuclear reactions.
- - I'm familiar with the verse in Revelation that provides the symbol definition for stars/angels, but that's specific to John's vision. Angels are messengers of God that interact with mankind. (See absolutely *any* reference to a literal angel in the Bible.) I really lost interest after reading this one, so that's where I'll stop telling you what I think is "too far out".
Thank you for your reply.
Now as to your belief system: it is not Bible based, but is traditions you have been taught outside the Bible that you believe. If you examine why you believe them you may find that "Tradition" trumps Bible.
First, let's go to the stars as angels created as living beings to do the will of God and who answer to God.
The stars of Light are the morning stars/ sons of God "who sang together when the foundations of the earth were laid".
No Scripture in the Word of God tells us the sun is a star. It does tell us that:
the sun is the appointed governor of the created light of day 1, a "Menorrah", which gathers the light in and refracts it back out to the entire heavens;
it does tell us that God set His created temple in the created sun.
No science has been able to tell or know the size of the sun, itself, and the "pillars of fire"
/plasma, arising and falling back are discovered by "science" to be hotter farther out than deeper in. Science tells us how far out the pillars of fire reach, but they do not know and cannot tell the size of the core of the sun. Enoch tells us it is the same size as the moon!
The sun is not a furnace of fire, but a created menorah, connected by currents to the "stars", which conduct their light to the sun, the governor and ruler of the light.
A menorrah is not a light source, but has poured in it that which shines out.
God asked Job if he knew where light dwells, and no, Job nor we do not know, for light does not "dwell" in the sun nor in the stars, but the light source/the power of light, is poured into the sun by the currents coming from the stars, and the sun governs that light and refracts it back out.
You would benefit from looking into the "Electric Sun" and Electric universe" sites I linked to see what men of science say about that electric universe and electric sun, with proven tests done in laboratories that show a galaxy can be scaled in a test tube in a laboratory, and behaves exactly as the galaxies seen through telescopes.
When God named the firmament of His power "heavens", he named them, in Hebrew, "Two waters", Shamayim, because He stretched out the heavens from the earth between the cut in two waters of creation on day 2.
There were no "galaxies out there" until God stretched out the heavens, and the morning stars sang together when He did so, God said in Job 38, said, when He "laid the foundations of the earth.
Jdg 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
The stars sent a flood over Sisera and destroyed more than the armies of Israel.
God calls all the stars by name, and they all answer to Him.
The stars are sons of God in the Word of God, and the Watcher angels are stars, in the Word of God.
The lightnings are also animate beings who answer to God, in the Word of God:
Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?
Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
As to Enoch: it is canon in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, and has always been "scripture/sacred writings among the Jews who were in Ethiopia when the Gospel came to them in the first century. It is the "first book of eschatology" given to the sons of Adam, and one who neglects it makes up all kinds of myths to "fill in the blanks", which are not blank when one reads Enoch, and Enoch dispels the myths man has made up about the creation and corroborates with the Bible we use.
The Jews who came into Christ in Ethiopia never came under Rome and so never cast out Enoch.
What they have was confirmed in the Dead Sea Scrolls as correct.
Copies of it were brought back to England in the late 1700's and translated to English in the early 1800's.
I have much more from Bible to show to this subject of the stars as sons of God and living beings who answer to God and govern over the seasons and winds and rains and so forth and so on, but for now, I have to go.
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
“Or who shut in the sea with doors,
When it burst forth and issued from the womb;
When I made the clouds its garment,
And thick darkness its swaddling band;
When I fixed My limit for it,
And set bars and doors;
When I said,
‘This far you may come, but no farther,
And here your proud waves must stop!’
“Have you commanded the morning since your days began,
And caused the dawn to know its place,
That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,
And the wicked be shaken out of it?
It takes on form like clay under a seal,
And stands out like a garment.
From the wicked their light is withheld,
And the upraised arm is broken.
“Have you entered the springs of the sea?
Or have you walked in search of the depths?
Have the gates of death been revealed to you?
Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?
Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth?
Tell Me, if you know all this.
“Where is the way to the dwelling of light?
And darkness, where is its place,
That you may take it to its territory,
That you may know the paths to its home?
Do you know it, because you were born then,
Or because the number of your days is great?
“Have you entered the treasury of snow,
Or have you seen the treasury of hail,
Which I have reserved for the time of trouble,
For the day of battle and war?
By what way is light diffused,
Or the east wind scattered over the earth?
“Who has divided a channel for the overflowing water,
Or a path for the thunderbolt,
To cause it to rain on a land where there is no one,
A wilderness in which there is no man;
To satisfy the desolate waste,
And cause to spring forth the growth of tender grass?
Has the rain a father?
Or who has begotten the drops of dew?
From whose womb comes the ice?
And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth?
The waters harden like stone,
And the surface of the deep is frozen.
“Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?
Can you bring out Mazzaroth[a] in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
“Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
That an abundance of water may cover you?
Can you send out lightnings, that they may go,
And say to you, ‘Here we are!’?
Who has put wisdom in the mind?
Or who has given understanding to the heart?
Who can number the clouds by wisdom?
Or who can pour out the bottles of heaven,
When the dust hardens in clumps,
And the clods cling together?
“Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
When they crouch in their dens,
Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
Who provides food for the raven,
When its young ones cry to God,
And wander about for lack of food?
