You two sound like you're married.
Oh, we basically are. Me and quatona/klaus go back to the good old (or maybe not?) general apologetics days.
He's also my favorite poster, maybe of all time. Even though to him I don't understand (willfully or not) half of what he's saying.
Received is, I´m not.
Yeah, because we all know what you mean by evidence and self-negating falsifiability.
And hidden in this statement is the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence. When you really properly consider the question of God, you're basically down to the old question of why there's something rather than nothing: God either created stuff or he didn't. This is a purely 50/50 bet here.
Even without any evidence at all, to claim that evidence is "wanting" either presupposes some complicated scientifically biased projection onto the problem (e.g., you shouldn't believe in anything unless you have evidence -- which of course is self-negating) or that you're not metaphysically considering the 50/50 chance of God existing giving the dichotomy presented above.
Go jump in the lake, quatona.
You really have an axe to grind, eh?
I never evaded anything to emotionalism
Would it comfort you if I changed my status-icon to "married"?
It does appear that individuals get the feeling of security, being loved, meaning in life, guidelines for morality, etc from their belief in a god. No *actual* gods required.
How circular.I personally go the other route, I say, belief in God gives me truths to believe in (which in a roundabout way satisfies a need for the truth I have, I guess).
You are thinking of disbelief as a belief. Disbelief is not a belief. It does not require justification.This sort of thing has been a bugbear for me for a while now though, I am even currently debating it with someone else - if God satisfies certain things that are good, how can you argue that the possibility of not believing in Him for less of a reason is somehow equally valid? (It just doesn't make sense)
Perhaps you believe in a different god than the other individuals on this forum that do claim they derive meaning in life, guidelines for morality etc. from their religion.i personally don't see how believing in a god gives individuals feelings of security, being loved, meaning in life, guidelines for morality etc.
since the opposite can clearly be true. (feeling on insecurity, feeling of being hated or hounded by god, uncertainty about life, destruction of moral guidelines)
and as a religious person, believing in god gives me very little, or nothing. not even a warm fuzzy feeling. the benefits i get from being a religious person don't come from my end, not my mental assent to the proposition that god exists, not going to church, not whatever. any benefits i get, come almost accidentally, incidentally (i think from god) and might just as well come to a non-believing person in a similar or completely different scenario.
so again, believing in god gives me very little or nothing, and i don't see why or by what mechanism, belief in a god could or would give a religious person 'feelings of security' or 'being loved' etc.
i believe in the christian god. i just don't think that purely believing has any benefits.Perhaps you believe in a different god than the other individuals on this forum that do claim they derive meaning in life, guidelines for morality etc. from their religion.