Flood Conundrum
Over the years, I have been interested in the flood, and the evidence, so here is what I think:
There are the coal deposits, and a few items have been found encased in coal; a bell and an iron cup. The YEC camp say that there are carbon date readings for coal, but the dates are unreliable, and the Evo camp dodge the evidence for any carbon dates for coal, as they want to believe that the coal is millions of years old.
The YECs want to believe that the earth is 6000 years old, because of the genealogy recorded in the bible, so both sides have a vested interest in not looking at carbon dates for coal, honestly. The deposits of coal look to me to have been laid down in the flood, as do the sedimentary rock layers.
But I can’t figure it out. There are different types of bat, specialised in hunting insects, or blossom bats which have a special snout and tongue, designed to sip nectar from flowers. How could Noah and crew feed these bats, even if they did hibernate? They would need sugar feeders, and I don’t know what, about the insectivorous bats.
Then there are all the many species of hummingbird, and sunbirds. And what about all the many species of beetles and spiders, and venomous snakes; if these creatures weren’t taken onto the ark, how did they survive a global flood, which was big enough to lay down all those layers of rock and coal?
There would be nothing left on the surface; no flowers, no swarms of insects. And why would Noah and kin take on board highly venomous snakes and spiders? Such creatures are a curse on the earth.
So, I doubt the biblical account, as it doesn’t seem possible. How did lamas and vicuñas get to South America only, after the flood? How did the Australian parrots get to Australia, and not Indonesia? Why are there African birds which are not found in the Americas?
Although there seems to have been a global flood, perhaps it wasn’t across the entire world? (I know what the bible says). There seems to have been an antediluvian civilisation, which was megalithic, and had advanced technology; perhaps even having nuclear weapons; as there is a record of a nuclear war in the Mahabharata. But if Noah and his kin were the only survivors of the flood, how did the nuclear war story find its way to India and the Mahabharata?
I think there was a collapse of the ocean beds of the Atlantic and the Pacific. The landmass of Atlantis sunk in the Atlantic, and Mu collapsed down in the Pacific. Sea levels were also much lower before the flood, so the underwater buildings off the coast of Malta, Egypt and Japan can be explained. There is a water mark on the inside of the great pyramid in Egypt, which shows that the flood was at that level in Egypt, during the flood.
The antediluvian civilisation was keen on building pyramids, all over the world, in China, Bosnia, and Mexico etc. They were probably not as advanced as regarding electronics, but they might have had cars and aircraft.
Dinosaurs lived at the same time as people, during the antediluvian age. The Ica stones are genuine, and DNA has been discovered in dinosaur bones, and there are fossilised footprints of humans and dinosaurs.
The biblical flood account is probably derived from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, or something similar. There is hardly any information in the bible about the antediluvian civilisation, even though it might have been thousands of years old, and spanning the whole globe.
The creation account in the bible is in my opinion, derived from the Sumerian Enuma Elish, discovered in the library of Ashurbanipal, at Nineveh. Although the creation myth of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, has not been discovered, it is very likely to have been out there in Sumer, or somewhere in that region, originating with a post- flood civilisation.
So, the biblical account of the flood might be true, in that it preserved the ancestors of a number of people groups, but I can’t see how it could have preserved all the species of life on the planet now, and not preserving all the species of dinosaurs, which look like they were wiped out, or mostly wiped out by the great flood, and the climate change after the flood (alteration of atmospheric pressure, and temperature) caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and pterosaurs.
Perhaps the ocean temperature change caused the extinction of the ammonites and trilobites. Perhaps there were human survivors in Australia, and India? (the Dravidians)... (just a guess
According to this video, there were two species of people, which were not human, and that lived on the earth at one time. What they were, where they came from, who knows?
The population of India now, with the Dravidians, might suggest that this people group survived the great flood, outside of the ark of Noah (which I also suspect to have been a real boat). And looking at the Americas and Africa; that there were no survivors on these land areas, and the population there now is the result of a post-flood migration. Perhaps Australia was spared the devastation of the flood?
The fauna of Africa and Asia is similar. There is a marked difference when you cross the Atlantic to the Americas, and a similar change over, when you go from Asia, to Indonesia and Australia.
I don't think that the whole world could be wrong about geology, and only Ken Ham, Kent Hovind and Grady Mc Murtry have the truth. And i don't think those YECs are even qualified in geology. This is an interesting website... although i don't agree that the bible is the perfect word of God.
http://thestonescryout.com/home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs2bQHpy7uk
Over the years, I have been interested in the flood, and the evidence, so here is what I think:
There are the coal deposits, and a few items have been found encased in coal; a bell and an iron cup. The YEC camp say that there are carbon date readings for coal, but the dates are unreliable, and the Evo camp dodge the evidence for any carbon dates for coal, as they want to believe that the coal is millions of years old.
The YECs want to believe that the earth is 6000 years old, because of the genealogy recorded in the bible, so both sides have a vested interest in not looking at carbon dates for coal, honestly. The deposits of coal look to me to have been laid down in the flood, as do the sedimentary rock layers.
But I can’t figure it out. There are different types of bat, specialised in hunting insects, or blossom bats which have a special snout and tongue, designed to sip nectar from flowers. How could Noah and crew feed these bats, even if they did hibernate? They would need sugar feeders, and I don’t know what, about the insectivorous bats.
Then there are all the many species of hummingbird, and sunbirds. And what about all the many species of beetles and spiders, and venomous snakes; if these creatures weren’t taken onto the ark, how did they survive a global flood, which was big enough to lay down all those layers of rock and coal?
There would be nothing left on the surface; no flowers, no swarms of insects. And why would Noah and kin take on board highly venomous snakes and spiders? Such creatures are a curse on the earth.
So, I doubt the biblical account, as it doesn’t seem possible. How did lamas and vicuñas get to South America only, after the flood? How did the Australian parrots get to Australia, and not Indonesia? Why are there African birds which are not found in the Americas?
Although there seems to have been a global flood, perhaps it wasn’t across the entire world? (I know what the bible says). There seems to have been an antediluvian civilisation, which was megalithic, and had advanced technology; perhaps even having nuclear weapons; as there is a record of a nuclear war in the Mahabharata. But if Noah and his kin were the only survivors of the flood, how did the nuclear war story find its way to India and the Mahabharata?
I think there was a collapse of the ocean beds of the Atlantic and the Pacific. The landmass of Atlantis sunk in the Atlantic, and Mu collapsed down in the Pacific. Sea levels were also much lower before the flood, so the underwater buildings off the coast of Malta, Egypt and Japan can be explained. There is a water mark on the inside of the great pyramid in Egypt, which shows that the flood was at that level in Egypt, during the flood.
The antediluvian civilisation was keen on building pyramids, all over the world, in China, Bosnia, and Mexico etc. They were probably not as advanced as regarding electronics, but they might have had cars and aircraft.
Dinosaurs lived at the same time as people, during the antediluvian age. The Ica stones are genuine, and DNA has been discovered in dinosaur bones, and there are fossilised footprints of humans and dinosaurs.
The biblical flood account is probably derived from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, or something similar. There is hardly any information in the bible about the antediluvian civilisation, even though it might have been thousands of years old, and spanning the whole globe.
The creation account in the bible is in my opinion, derived from the Sumerian Enuma Elish, discovered in the library of Ashurbanipal, at Nineveh. Although the creation myth of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, has not been discovered, it is very likely to have been out there in Sumer, or somewhere in that region, originating with a post- flood civilisation.
So, the biblical account of the flood might be true, in that it preserved the ancestors of a number of people groups, but I can’t see how it could have preserved all the species of life on the planet now, and not preserving all the species of dinosaurs, which look like they were wiped out, or mostly wiped out by the great flood, and the climate change after the flood (alteration of atmospheric pressure, and temperature) caused the extinction of the dinosaurs and pterosaurs.
Perhaps the ocean temperature change caused the extinction of the ammonites and trilobites. Perhaps there were human survivors in Australia, and India? (the Dravidians)... (just a guess
According to this video, there were two species of people, which were not human, and that lived on the earth at one time. What they were, where they came from, who knows?
The population of India now, with the Dravidians, might suggest that this people group survived the great flood, outside of the ark of Noah (which I also suspect to have been a real boat). And looking at the Americas and Africa; that there were no survivors on these land areas, and the population there now is the result of a post-flood migration. Perhaps Australia was spared the devastation of the flood?
The fauna of Africa and Asia is similar. There is a marked difference when you cross the Atlantic to the Americas, and a similar change over, when you go from Asia, to Indonesia and Australia.
I don't think that the whole world could be wrong about geology, and only Ken Ham, Kent Hovind and Grady Mc Murtry have the truth. And i don't think those YECs are even qualified in geology. This is an interesting website... although i don't agree that the bible is the perfect word of God.
http://thestonescryout.com/home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs2bQHpy7uk
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