BondiHarry
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so how many times in the New Testament does God need to explain eternal hell?
Matthew 25: 40-46
If God can drown an entire race (death by suffocation) and burn an entire race (not to mention 150lb hail stones) in the end days, I would not question the fact that He can and will punish for eternity.
like I said, only two greek words. Which is not the majority.
every date I have seen and proof I have seen regarding this subject has been grossly incorrect. But please give dates and examples of history that are in unison with your view. you gave several reasons for your viewpoint, but did not refute the fact that you merely use death and destruction as your positive greek evidences, and no more.
Methinks you are so wedded to the doctrines of men, nothing will change your mind about the ultimate fate of lost men. The Bible simply does NOT support this idea of eternal torment for any more than three specific entitites and I would suggest you go back to church history to see when it started to better understand its foundation. This wicked doctrine that God will punish the unforgiven with eternal torment had its roots in a church itself corrupted by evil which in order to compel men to submit to or even support its evil presented those who balked at submitting/supporting its evil with 'submit (or support) or you will be excommunicated and not forgiven your sins and God will torment you in hell with fire and brimstone day and night for all time'. Remember, the typical Christian was illiterate and did not have access to the Bible and his only access to the word of God was what was told to him by the church ... he had NO means of checking to see if what he was being told was indeed the word of God or only what the church claimed was the word of God so many men faced the dilemma of following the conscience that God gave them and balking at what they sensed was evil and risking hell and eternal torment OR doing as the church told them was God's will (like that constant refrain heard in the movie Kingdom of Heaven 'God wills it'). Well, we now have the means of reading the Bible for ourselves and I am amazed that so many false doctrines (like eternal torment in hell or once saved always saved) are embraced and defended as the word of God when a thorough reading of the Bible reveals they cannot be true.
Does God warn us about embracing the doctrines of men? YOU BET!
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9)
The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men. (Isaiah 29:13)
They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. (Matthew 7:7)
These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. (Colossians 2:22)
There are of course some false beliefs and doctrines that do not impact on the salvation of a man and the nature of hell and the ultimate fate of lost men are among these as committing sin is not part of such false doctrines. There are however other false doctrines that are being embraced that do involve sins such as stealing, murder and idolatry and will reveal their supporters as being members of the Matthew 7 'Lord, Lord' crowd.
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