Donald Trump is a Threat to America

[ScottA]

I don't understand how you can say that. Would you really trust him to have the power to launch a nuclear war? His answers on policy are so unstable. He jumps around in incoherent rambling that always end up with praise for himself. It is scary to think of a mind like that having that much power.

Or...he's brilliantly beating a corrupt political machine and a biased media at their own game. But it is understandable that you don't like his chess - who could - he's playing with maggots.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

We know nothing of the kind. Until Mr. Trump releases some information, like his tax returns, it's all guessing.

Simply from the buildings he owns we know it's at least $3-4 billion.

Would a billionaire con desperate people out of their life savings, money that was needed to feed their children, as Mr. Trump did with Trump "University"?

This isn't proven in a court of law yet, how can you be so sure Trump has done so?

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Thanks for repsonding. We're all entitled to our opinions, and I'll offer a few of my own.

Donald Trump's bankruptcies have left his contractors and suppliers with millions of dollars in unpaid bills. You mention Warren Buffett. One of my heroes. At least 15 times wealthier than Donald. I know Buffett owned stock, and lost money in one energy company that went bankrupt. But I'm not aware of any company which he actually controls that has gone under and left its employees and creditors in the lurch. And Berkshire Hathaway is a public company. Warren fully discloses financials to the SEC, which becomes public information. He answers to shareholders--one of whom is myself. In the nearly 10 years I've owned his stock, he's more than doubled my investment. So I know he's done the same for many others. I'm certain that Mr. Buffett has made more money for other people than Donald Trump has earned in his entire life.

I'm not trying to claim Trump is as successful as Buffett.

The general principle holds true though, that it's about the good investments outweighing the bad investments. Trump's good investments clearly do so.

What do you call it when he impugns the integrity of a federal judge because of his Mexican heritage? A well respected jurist rules against him, and Trump immediately claims the judge is based because of his ethnicity. How is that not race-baiting?

I wouldn't call it "race-baiting", but yes it wasn't the most sensible thing he's done.

He's fantasizing about a 2,000 mile wall which Mexico has categorically stated it will never pay for. What's Donald gonna do about it?

Mexico 'paying the wall' has been suggested in a couple of different ways. One is by negotiating a better trade deal that makes America the surplus money that allows to pay for the wall, and hence Mexico 'pays for the wall'. The other is threatening tariffs, and another is threatening that Mexico won't get their rebate. Paying for the wall is a fraction of Mexico's income from US trade, they would be foolish to jeopardise that.

You know DT says he's gonna take out ISIS. Back in March, he called for 30,000 troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria. You think that will work? How long will they have to be there? And how many American soldiers will be killed, maimed, captured and beheaded in propaganda videos? So much for ending warmongering and foreign interventions.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-30000-troops-isis/

Defeating ISIS is what Trump sees as the national interest, protecting national security and falling within the principe of America First.

I don't think ground troops is his final policy on the matter, but he could very well send them in, yes, though I doubt it.

What he won't do is send in troops to stop every dictator and 'bad guy' that doesn't really do anything to us, but violates human rights laws, etc.

The rise of ISIS is due to the failed intervention in Iraq in the first place, and that's the kind of thing Trump won't do.

 

[ScottA]

Yes, those of us who prefer Hillary to Donald have often certainly implied, if not outright declared, that those who think Donald is the better choice are "stupid" or otherwise "not quite right in the head". Here is the problem, though. I politely suggest that if, repeat if, a person unashamedly embraces a candidate who is clearly a crackpot, that person is literally begging to have their mental faculties challenged. And - and this is really important - it appears that the more nutty Mr. Trump acts, the more his defenders like him.

No wonder the sanity of the Trump supporters is questioned - it's not so much that he is supported, it is that he is lionized for his wacky statements and actions. This is what has us shaking our collective heads.

Now you may be very well be one of those Trump supporters who thinks he is better choice even though he is clearly an immature narcissist who is not remotely qualified. Fair enough; at least there is a case to be made here.

I would also question the mental powers of any who would somehow think that Hillary is the better candidate because she is dishonest. This is the problem: it certainly appears that many, although certainly not all, Trump supporters inhabit a 'bizarro-Jerry" world where things like infantile behavior, race-baiting, and misogyny are actually virtues. By contrast, I think the Clinton crowd acknowledge she has moral issues and understand this as a weakness, not a strength.

You are just reading Trump wrong. For heaven sake, do all the good guys have to wear a special label for you to tell them apart? He's not a cop, he's a bouncer, a mercenary. Public service has become a sham...and Trump is just playing chess with a bunch of crooks...and doing pretty good.

And that would scary me, to think that we have lost control of the public good and it is being taken over by private mobsters - but I have met and spent time with him...and he is a decent guy. He'll do the right thing.

 

[KWCrazy]

Hmmm. Consider this from the Donald:
"Does Madonna know something we all don't about Barack? At a concert she said 'we have a black Muslim in the White House."

So Madonna is racist?
News flash!!! Obama really is black. That's not just a really good tan.
So Donald said that Madonna called Obama a Muslim, so that makes Obama a racist and not Madonna? You aren't really serious, are you, because there is something seriously wrong with your cognitive skills.
I doubt he's afraid of Muslims, so calling him Islamophobic would be a lie.
Is Obama a Muslim? He certainly shows more difference to Islam than Christianity, but I suspect that like his father and stepfather, he isn't very religious at all. Under Islam, though, being born to a Muslim parent means that the child is Muslim. By converting to Christianity, Obama is an apostate. source

 

[J Cord]

Simply from the buildings he owns we know it's at least $3-4 billion

Are they all of clear title? Do you know if he has any debt, and if so how much that debt is? Unless you have intimate knowledge of Trump's finances, you don't know how much money he really has. So, let me ask you, do you have intimate knowledge of Donald Trump's finances?

This isn't proven in a court of law yet, how can you be so sure Trump has done so?

We've heard from Donald Trump himself that he lied about the instructors and his involvement. We've heard from the people who worked for Donald that it was a scam. We've heard from the customers that they were scammed. We've heard from the DA that it was illegal for Trump to call it a "University".

Unless there is new evidence, I'm going to side with the overwhelming evidence, and believe he is guilty for the purposes of this election. Something that speaks so directly to his character can't be ignored. Mr. Trump knows this, and I haven't heard him make any reasonable defence, or give any reasonable excuses.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Are they all of clear title? Do you know if he has any debt, and if so how much that debt is? Unless you have intimate knowledge of Trump's finances, you don't know how much money he really has. So, let me ask you, do you have intimate knowledge of Donald Trump's finances?

I don't, but Forbes made an estimation.

We've heard from Donald Trump himself that he lied about the instructors and his involvement. We've heard from the people who worked for Donald that it was a scam. We've heard from the customers that they were scammed. We've heard from the DA that it was illegal for Trump to call it a "University".

Unless there is new evidence, I'm going to side with the overwhelming evidence, and believe he is guilty for the purposes of this election. Something that speaks so directly to his character can't be ignored. Mr. Trump knows this, and I haven't heard him make any reasonable defence, or give any reasonable excuses.

If Trump did these things it wouldn't alter my support. Still better than warmongering Hillary.

 

[J Cord]

I'm not trying to claim Trump is as successful as Buffett.

The general principle holds true though, that it's about the good investments outweighing the bad investments. Trump's good investments clearly do so.

How do you know this? Do you have intimate knowledge about every one of Donald Trump's investments? I'm guessing the answer is no, so in reality you don't know if this is true or not.

What we do know, what is a fact, is that he has declared bankruptcy four times. Not very impressive, not at all.

 

[J Cord]

I don't, but Forbes made an estimation.

Forbes made a guess. Like I said, scamming desperate poor people out of their life savings, and leaving them deep in debt, doesn't sound like something a legitimate billionaire would do, at least to me.

If Trump did these things it wouldn't alter my support. Still better than warmongering Hillary.

I know. Didn't Trump himself say he could shoot someone on main street, and his followers would still vote for him? Something like that.

 

[Mark Stacy]

The few who are willing to vote for Trump are a drop in the ocean compared to what he will need to get to the white house.
He will capture the crazy "Palin" voters but most will see sense and vote for someone else.

Question......... Where are the Koch Brothers? they are not backing Trump.

 

[camille70]

Even many Republicans agree: Donald Trump is a threat to America. Is anybody here voting for him?

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...-that-the-gop-nominee-is-a-threat-to-america/

Don't be deceived, NO ONE here is voting for Trump. There are several who think they are voting for him, but they are really voting for Trump's advisors and other than being told he has "the best" advisors, no one knows who they are or what they believe.

 

[camille70]

His answer about the nuclear triad during the debates last year should have disqualified him. Not only did he not know what he was talking about, he didn't understand what was being asked.

It's my personal opinion that in his mind, Trump is not running for President, he is running for CEO of USA Inc. As he has done in the past, he thinks he can lend his name and delegate the actual work to someone else. If all goes well he gets the glory and prestige. If things go poorly, he blames it on whomever was making the actual decisions. Like his apprentice show, he has tasked individuals with coming up with policy ideas, and can be swayed by whatever argument sounds good in the moment. He has no doctrine or core fundamentals of his own that he adheres to or uses to guide his decision making. This is why there is no consistency in policy or messaging. If he wins he would be the face of the Presidency but I don't think any policy ideas he'd put forth or act upon would be his own. In this respect, he is a puppet master's dream come true.

The fact that his son told Kasich that he'd make him the most powerful VP in history, in charge of policy both foreign and domestic, bears this out. This is also why the GOP/RNC has an anti-gay platform while his actual convention speech was gay friendly. Right now both he and his campaign are trying to disavow insisting part of the RNC platform be removed to make it more Putin friendly. Trump is saying he didn't request it as is his campaign manger. How does this happen if he is calling the shots? Are his delegates just GOP advisors with their own agenda, or people more radical who want a scorched earth if they don't get what they want?

In theory this type of set up is workable, however Trump goes off script too much. As we have seen with the Khan family, he speaks recklessly and has to clean it up later, or it becomes a bigger mess up because his pride won't let him back down. The "Trump Train" is a wreck waiting to happen. I bet almost anything he does his best to get out of the debates.

 

[lesliedellow]

Even many Republicans agree: Donald Trump is a threat to America. Is anybody here voting for him?

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...-that-the-gop-nominee-is-a-threat-to-america/

I was jokingly telling myself that, come November, leading republicans would be pleading with people to vote Democrat, for the sake of the nation. Maybe that is now coming to pass.

I see that Mega Mouth is now telling his followers that the election will be rigged (but that will only have been the case if he loses, of course).

 

[Nithavela]

I remember when Regan was running, and he spoke of did military spending. Some were sure war was inevitable after he called: the USSR the Evil Empire. But Carter bless his heart... Despite all his Camp David's got run over left and right! Russia invaded Afghanistan not long after a sit down! I'm actually a moderate! So I vote based on who I think is best qualified for the state our country is in. Right now it's our economy! So... I'm voting Trump as as businessman!! An imperfect analogy: if my AMG was acting hinky... Would I call my IT guy?? He's a smart cat but he can't fix a German engine any more than me! I call a mechanic! Hillary is a career politician she's never been in business.. Bought or sold a company and turned the red to black! If our country is in danger it's critical failures that cause weakness. A strong America =A safe Anerica! Remember I'm speaking as a moderate! I simply don't think he is more dangerous than Hilary! The world has become more dangerous.... How do we know Hillary won't under/overreact to a crisis. I'll be honest I think Trump may be the safer bet!! Just me.. Blessings

Are you aware that trump has bankrupted his buisnesses four times?

Would you call a mechanic that you know has destroyed four cars he was supposed to repair?

 

[Freodin]

Why? What's so bad about having an actual border?

You might want to look up on the Berlin Wall, and the inner-german border.

 

[KWCrazy]

Would you call a mechanic that you know has destroyed four cars he was supposed to repair?

What would you call a secretary of state who lost four Americans she was supposed to protect? Does being the worst secretary of state in our history automatically qualify her for president?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Even many Republicans agree: Donald Trump is a threat to America. Is anybody here voting for him?

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...-that-the-gop-nominee-is-a-threat-to-america/

Of course I'm voting for Trump, I actually like the guy... Of course, I also like sharktopus where as most other people dont.

 

[Nithavela]

What would you call a secretary of state who lost four Americans she was supposed to protect? Does being the worst secretary of state in our history automatically qualify her for president?

What would you call a person who seems to be physically unable to talk about trump without swerving the subject to hillary clinton?

 

[expos4ever]

NO! You used the WORDS: mental ability First! Not me!!! Try following the ball. I gave my acedemic creds only in response to our mental ability! Now you say so what! I only challenged your stereotype! So which is it?? Trump supporters are cretins! Until I present my creds and you duck and cover as if you DID NOT QUESTION mental ability. Make up that mind...

Your suggestion that I "follow the ball" is one you should take to heart yourself: I was quite clear that I was limiting my attribution of a lack of mental capacity to those who specifically do not accept that Trump's character is at least a problem:

I politely suggest that if, repeat if, a person unashamedly embraces a candidate who is clearly a crackpot, that person is literally begging to have their mental faculties challenged.

....as well as this:

I simply made the observation that many Trump supporters appears to embrace, welcome, and almost revel in his crazy behaviours.

I qualified my remarks carefully in the the interests of giving people benefit of the doubt. So if you are one of those who think Trump is the better choice but understand his narcissism and immaturity to be negatives, my comments do not apply to you.

In any event, a university pedigree is not a reliable indicator of mental fitness. Ted Cruz went to Princeton (my alma mater, by the way) and he has said many things that demonstrate that going to Princeton does not guarantee sound thinking, at least in some areas.

 

[Eryk]

What would you call a person who seems to be physically unable to talk about trump without swerving the subject to hillary clinton?

#NeverTrump