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Does God want myself and atheists to believe he exists?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cieza" data-source="post: 59483053" data-attributes="member: 287732"><p>Do most Christians concur with you? </p><p>You said that "believe in God" and "believe that God exists" are the same thing. But one can believe that God exists without doing any of the things you've listed above. How do you reconcile that?</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no evidence that would be sufficient for me to change my belief about whether or not a supreme being exists. Therefore, contrary to what you say, I do not have a choice to believe that a supreme being exists. How do you reconcile this?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd guess it is largely because of how you are interpreting and reacting to my questions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have first hand experience of life existing on the planet I am on. And you likely do as well. Just how do you come to the conclusion that it is extremely unlikely that life exists on earth?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you know how many other occurrences of a sun and a planet being the precise distance from each other that it causes life to exist like it does on our planet have occurred in the history of the universe? Unless you know the answer is zero, then don't try to convince me of anything using the fallacious argument of selective observation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does this mean he is physiologically capable of doing anything?</p><p></p><p>Is he physically present at every place?</p><p></p><p>How does he get his knowledge of everything?</p><p></p><p>If he can do anything, then he can both change and lie. How do you reconcile this?</p><p></p><p>Why isn't failing to alert the people of Haiti prior to the earthquake striking considered a sin?</p><p></p><p>He certainly didn't love the people of Haiti who he could have saved from that deadly earthquake.</p><p></p><p>If God created all or everything, then either God created himself or he isn't considered part of everything. How do you reconcile this?</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's relevant to me, as before I believe something exists, I need to know what it is I'm believing to exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did the universe once not exist? You would say yes. Did the universe later exist? You would say yes. So there must have been a time prior to the universe being created in which God resided. Later there became a universe. Therefore, God falls within time. How can you reconcile this?</p><p></p><p>Once again, How does one confess their sins to something which doesn't appear to exist?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The questions may appear illogical to you, but they're not unanswerable questions. You should try to see it from my point of view.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cieza, post: 59483053, member: 287732"] Do most Christians concur with you? You said that "believe in God" and "believe that God exists" are the same thing. But one can believe that God exists without doing any of the things you've listed above. How do you reconcile that? There is no evidence that would be sufficient for me to change my belief about whether or not a supreme being exists. Therefore, contrary to what you say, I do not have a choice to believe that a supreme being exists. How do you reconcile this? I'd guess it is largely because of how you are interpreting and reacting to my questions. I have first hand experience of life existing on the planet I am on. And you likely do as well. Just how do you come to the conclusion that it is extremely unlikely that life exists on earth? Do you know how many other occurrences of a sun and a planet being the precise distance from each other that it causes life to exist like it does on our planet have occurred in the history of the universe? Unless you know the answer is zero, then don't try to convince me of anything using the fallacious argument of selective observation. Does this mean he is physiologically capable of doing anything? Is he physically present at every place? How does he get his knowledge of everything? If he can do anything, then he can both change and lie. How do you reconcile this? Why isn't failing to alert the people of Haiti prior to the earthquake striking considered a sin? He certainly didn't love the people of Haiti who he could have saved from that deadly earthquake. If God created all or everything, then either God created himself or he isn't considered part of everything. How do you reconcile this? It's relevant to me, as before I believe something exists, I need to know what it is I'm believing to exist. Did the universe once not exist? You would say yes. Did the universe later exist? You would say yes. So there must have been a time prior to the universe being created in which God resided. Later there became a universe. Therefore, God falls within time. How can you reconcile this? Once again, How does one confess their sins to something which doesn't appear to exist? The questions may appear illogical to you, but they're not unanswerable questions. You should try to see it from my point of view. [/QUOTE]
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