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Does god predestine people to hell? (moved)
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<blockquote data-quote="oi_antz" data-source="post: 68423952" data-attributes="member: 261524"><p>Look into it. There's a few major beliefs that majority of Christians haven't independently questioned, and when you scratch the surface, you can actually see for real that God is love and the gospel is beautiful. The other major one is Penal Substitutionary Atonement which leads also into "saved by faith" - the idea that you only need to believe you are saved to be saved. But actually the gospel of Jesus Christ is much fairer than that. Those who know the truth must live repentantly and obediently, and nobody is saved because of their beliefs but because of the way they treat others: Genesis 3:22 and Revelation 2:7, and Matthew 25:31-46.</p><p></p><p>No, the purpose of permitting people who sin and refuse to repent is actually really important. Do you remember that Adam and Eve did original sin before they knew the effects of sin? Do you think that maybe if they knew Cain would kill Abel, they wouldn't have done it? What about if they knew all the horrors since that time? What if they knew that Jesus would be mocked, beaten and blasphemed because of it? I reckon, the experience of sin is such that those who do repent and obey God will forever know how important it is. Those that are deemed unable to live forever demonstrate to those who remain, the extent that sin kills and destroys, and the severity of the trap it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oi_antz, post: 68423952, member: 261524"] Look into it. There's a few major beliefs that majority of Christians haven't independently questioned, and when you scratch the surface, you can actually see for real that God is love and the gospel is beautiful. The other major one is Penal Substitutionary Atonement which leads also into "saved by faith" - the idea that you only need to believe you are saved to be saved. But actually the gospel of Jesus Christ is much fairer than that. Those who know the truth must live repentantly and obediently, and nobody is saved because of their beliefs but because of the way they treat others: Genesis 3:22 and Revelation 2:7, and Matthew 25:31-46. No, the purpose of permitting people who sin and refuse to repent is actually really important. Do you remember that Adam and Eve did original sin before they knew the effects of sin? Do you think that maybe if they knew Cain would kill Abel, they wouldn't have done it? What about if they knew all the horrors since that time? What if they knew that Jesus would be mocked, beaten and blasphemed because of it? I reckon, the experience of sin is such that those who do repent and obey God will forever know how important it is. Those that are deemed unable to live forever demonstrate to those who remain, the extent that sin kills and destroys, and the severity of the trap it is. [/QUOTE]
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