Did God create men specifically to be arroused by sight?

[daughterofzion]

I see a lot of subject that refere to the "fact" that God "just wired men that way" when it comes to them being arroused by sight. I know of scripture where men were arroused by sight. But I cant think of any scripture that teaches that God created men specifically to be "wired that way". In fact women seem to be just as arroused by sight as men, maybe not always in the same way, depending on the individual. Can anyone find scripture that specifically says otherwise?

 

[justified]

I think you are right, women are aroused by sight. But I think you'll find that both sexes are aroused by hearing even more than sight.

 

[FreezBee]

I see a lot of subject that refere to the "fact" that God "just wired men that way" when it comes to them being arroused by sight. I know of scripture where men were arroused by sight. But I cant think of any scripture that teaches that God created men specifically to be "wired that way". In fact women seem to be just as arroused by sight as men, maybe not always in the same way, depending on the individual. Can anyone find scripture that specifically says otherwise?

Excuse me for asking, but what exactly is your question?

The poll question is "Do you think men are more sight inclined than women?", but your post seems to ask us about how God wired us. Maybe it's the same to you, but it isn't to me

I haven't voted, because I'm not sure that I understand your question


- FreezBee

 

[AngCath]

I am a little confused.. is the question relating to men compared to women or did God create men this way?

 

[daughterofzion]

To answer your questions. - The question/s are , yes biblically did God create men specifically to be more inclined to sight? AND - Do you personally believe that the statement about men "just being wired that way" is true, and or do you believe both men and women are sight inclined?

 

[cathromang]

Are you referring to sexual arousal???

I'm not sure the Bible addresses this, but studies I've seen by psychs say that men are more aroused by sight than women. Women are more touch and talk oriented.

consider all the uhm...mags, movies and all that stuff that are geared toward men - not so much toward women. I think women are much smarter than men when it comes to that kind of thing.

Consider David when he first saw Bathsheeba and what he did to have her....just from seeing her.

 

[daughterofzion]

Are you referring to sexual arousal???

I'm not sure the Bible addresses this, but studies I've seen by psychs say that men are more aroused by sight than women. Women are more touch and talk oriented.

consider all the uhm...mags, movies and all that stuff that are geared toward men - not so much toward women. I think women are much smarter than men when it comes to that kind of thing.

Consider David when he first saw Bathsheeba and what he did to have her....just from seeing her.

Yes the first thought that popped into my head when considering this was King David. But than again one of his wives got so angry/jealous when David danced naked around a fire unto the Lord. Maybe that was a different reaction from sight, but still a powerful reaction.

I do agree that movies , the media, etc over all have been geared more towards men, which I am inclined to believe is why it seems and why men and women just give into the belief that "God just wired men that way". I think its more that we are all wired with temptations, lusts, attractions, and the media has layed out more for men in that area up until recently. More and more the media is appealing to women also through half naked in shape men for example. More and more I see women acting and sounding just like "an average man" sounds. Could it be that human beings are conforming to what they are surrounded by and filling themselves with?

 

[Nazaroo]

Is this a bible-study question, or would it be better in either General Theology or moved to current affairs?

 

[PreacherMan4U]

I don't think God "wired" men any differently than women. He gave all of us the same set of senses. The major difference is, that in most cases, men have a stronger sex drive and are the more aggressive of the genders. To single one sense out as being the major one controlling the male sex drive would be an error. Sexual arrousal depends on each man, independently. It may be sight in some men, touch in others, sound in others, or taste in others. You must also divide the males into age groups. As a man advances in age, sex drive triggers change. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that you can't stereotype males, as a whole, by one sense.

Mike

 

[daughterofzion]

I don't think God "wired" men any differently than women. He gave all of us the same set of senses. The major difference is, that in most cases, men have a stronger sex drive and are the more aggressive of the genders. To single one sense out as being the major one controlling the male sex drive would be an error. Sexual arrousal depends on each man, independently. It may be sight in some men, touch in others, sound in others, or taste in others. You must also divide the males into age groups. As a man advances in age, sex drive triggers change. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that you can't stereotype males, as a whole, by one sense.

Mike

I agree. : )

 

[FreezBee]

I don't think God "wired" men any differently than women. He gave all of us the same set of senses.

Compare to:

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

Not here that this indicates that both male and female are created in the image of God - therefore in so far as we are to attribute any human qualities to be hardwired by God, they should be the same in both genders.

The major difference is, that in most cases, men have a stronger sex drive and are the more aggressive of the genders.

This may vary between cultures - Danish women are insanely agressive e.g. And some years ago, when I still bothered to listen to radio and watch TV, I heard a two our long radio program, where woman discussed that the only thing men ever think of is sex. Try to meditate a bit over this. These women were talking, and presumably therefore thinking, about nothing but sex - yes, they were projecting their thoughts as accusations upon men, but these women were disclosing their own thoughts, not the thoughts of men!!!

It's a common prejudice that men are nothing but sex-maniacs, and I'm ever so sick and tired of this prejudice - and I really mean that there should be issued an international law against it!

Before I moved to, where I live now, the quickest way for me to walk between my home and Copenhagen Central Station was through a certain street, where women would offer certain warez, that I assume I do not have to be anymore explicit about. Women every where elase would turn there heads away, if passing me on the street, but not so here. In this particular steet they would come over to me and, well, ask if was in need of their warez, and I would smile, shake my head, and say: "No, no - some other day, maybe!"

So, let's get rid of all that myth of men being insatiable sex-monsters, please


- FreezBee

 

[justified]

Not here that this indicates that both male and female are created in the image of God

uhoh. I know a passage in I Corinthians that disagrees with you. Whatever are we going to do?

 

[Nazaroo]

This may vary between cultures - Danish women are insanely agressive

Um... can you expand on this?

 

[cathromang]

I do agree that movies , the media, etc over all have been geared more towards men, which I am inclined to believe is why it seems and why men and women just give into the belief that "God just wired men that way". I think its more that we are all wired with temptations, lusts, attractions, and the media has layed out more for men in that area up until recently. More and more the media is appealing to women also through half naked in shape men for example. More and more I see women acting and sounding just like "an average man" sounds. Could it be that human beings are conforming to what they are surrounded by and filling themselves with?

Yes, we are, I believe.
Society today tells women that they are to be like men (and vice versa). That both sexes are to have the same appetites and desires.
Looking at the top model ads, some of the models it is hard to tell if they are male or female. Society looks for androgynous role models for us to follow.
Soon we will see that society will attempt to show an even younger age as being "sexy". pre-teens and younger as our depravity deepens.

God certainly did not wire us that way. I think God may have "wired" men for sight due to pro-creation issues. See which female looked to be "good stock" with "good birthing hips" and all. That sounds sexist by today's standards but that's the way it may have been to keep us going. Some may say that's just survival instinct...

That's my inane ramblings anyway...

 

[FreezBee]

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uhoh. I know a passage in I Corinthians that disagrees with you. Whatever are we going to do?

Declare Corinthian women to be different from Corinthian men should solve the problem, don't you think?

Um... can you expand on this?

I think that would be against forum rules


- FreezBee

 

[Nazaroo]

I think that would be against forum rules

I can see how sometimes bad boys might earn a good spanking from an aggressive Dane.

 

[FreezBee]

I can see how sometimes bad boys might earn a good spanking from an aggressive Dane.

Ooh, Nazaroo, please read the following.

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Anyway, if you really need to have your curiosity satisfied (and assuming that the moderators will turn the blind eye ), I can give you the following:

A few years ago I had a female colleague, a former school teacher by the way, that one day said that women ofren are accused of being aggressive, but, she said, women are really assertative, which she then explained as mean "aggressive, but in a polite way". Ok, one day, when I left my office to fetch some printouts from the printer, I was extra careful checking that I only took my own printouts. The reason behind this is that on earlier occasions the primtout of other people had become mixed in with mine, and I had taken those as well, not checking right away. So what I was doing was actually to pay respect to my colleagues. The mentioned female colleague happened to come by, and she yelled: "Are you reading those!" That is, she thought that I was violating the privacy of other people. A bit of thinking might have told her that with a printer used by several people it may happen that there are printouts from more than one person, and what I was doing was, what I was doing, namely checking that I only took my own. But thinking before yelling is a discipline Danish women have yet to learn.

Note that this is even relevant for the thread - this woman acted on sight, direct observation and direct action. Why bother with all that cognitive processing stuff, only nerds do that, anyway!


- FreezBee

 

[daughterofzion]

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uhoh. I know a passage in I Corinthians that disagrees with you. Whatever are we going to do?

That disagree's both male and female were created in Gods image? hmm Where would this be?

 

[MATTHEWE]

I do not believe God originally created men to be aroused by sight. I think this only became the case after Eve ate of the Forbidden Fruit:



7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves things to gird about.



God then placed a curse upon women that they should suffer in menstruation and childbirth evermore:



16Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception. In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."



I think therefore, that the unhealthy male preoccupation with sex is God's curse upon Adam. I believe that if a man is to be accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven, he must work at resisting the ungodly temptations of the flesh: resist obsession with genitalia, resist the drive toward self-pollution and resist the tendency toward the objectification of women. He must ignore the flesh, and resist the demon of arousal within him until he is married, after which the demon should be held in check and the flesh shall be indulged only for wholesome matters of procreation. A man and his wife shall learn to love each other in a pure and spiritual manner, banishing unwholesome and unseemly temptations. In effect, the woman must drive away the man's serpent and he in turn must resist the fruit her tree.



God bless

 

[FreezBee]

think therefore, that the unhealthy male preoccupation with sex is God's curse upon Adam. I believe that if a man is to be accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven, he must work at resisting the ungodly temptations of the flesh: resist obsession with genitalia, resist the drive toward self-pollution and resist the tendency toward the objectification of women. He must ignore the flesh, and resist the demon of arousal within him until he is married, after which the demon should be held in check and the flesh shall be indulged only for wholesome matters of procreation. A man and his wife shall learn to love each other in a pure and spiritual manner, banishing unwholesome and unseemly temptations. In effect, the woman must drive away the man's serpent and he in turn must resist the fruit her tree.

Hi MATTHEWE and welcome to the CF

But with that said, let me say to you that I suggest you cut down on your reading of feminist literature - it's just a well-meant advice. Don't take women's prejudices about men as a true description of men, the purpose of these descriptions is simply to allow women to force men to enforce the idea that if a man and a woman has sex with each other, then the man is taking something from the woman, and the woman is giving something to the man.

I've been married, and actually my wife was more sexually interested in me than I was in her, and I got pretty tired of always being confronted with the claim that women are not at all interested in sex, they are simply forced to have sex with their husbands against their will, and so on, and so on, and .... So I decided to stop having sex with my wife at all. In the beginning she just occasionally mentioned the time "when men were men and knew what for to use women", but later she started suggesting we should buy porn movies, and after a year and a half she wanted to be divorced. I was writing my master's thesis at the time, so it wasn't really practical for me at that time, so my wife and I went to a therapist, who to my amazement actually agreed with me that their was no real problem, and it all problably was because i was writing that thesis, so we were reconciled. When we came home, my wife said with shaking hands and a trembling voice, that "Now she really wanted, ....", and that was all I needed to hear, that is, that I wasn't forcing her against her will. Oh, by the way, we did divorce later, if you really need to know.

So, MATTHEWE, I really think you should reconsider your conception of men and women.

God bless

And may God blees you as well and open your eyes to the real world

- FreezBee