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<blockquote data-quote="Belk" data-source="post: 69250934" data-attributes="member: 134829"><p>From your link.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So it would appear that per your source this is incorrect. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From Wikipedia</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds rather different then what they describe. I also found this interesting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, while it is possible the fetus is dismembered it is not the intent. I also do not see anything about ring forceps being used nor does your link mention anything about it other then to claim "dismemberment abortions happen in the second and third trimester.</p><p></p><p>According to webMD an abortion during the second trimester is more likely to be a D&E.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would you dismember something with pliers? Why not a cutting instrument? Let's see what wiki says shall we?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds much less horrific. In fact it looks like your source uses loaded language in order to create an emotional response. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I found [USER=342011]@PapaZoom[/USER], was that it is possible a fetus is dismembered. But that is not the intent and it appears to be the new buzz word. I found a lot of pro-life sites mentioning dismemberment but zero neutral sites that did so. Nothing on WebMD or other informational sites. I did find a source that I would think pro-choice that says this is the new emotive language being used to attack abortion. </p><p></p><p>In conclusion I find a lack of information to back up your claims. I conclude that it can happen in some cases but certainly not the majority and it is mostly highlighted as an attempt to emotionally manipulate people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Belk, post: 69250934, member: 134829"] From your link. So it would appear that per your source this is incorrect. From Wikipedia Sounds rather different then what they describe. I also found this interesting. So, while it is possible the fetus is dismembered it is not the intent. I also do not see anything about ring forceps being used nor does your link mention anything about it other then to claim "dismemberment abortions happen in the second and third trimester. According to webMD an abortion during the second trimester is more likely to be a D&E. Why would you dismember something with pliers? Why not a cutting instrument? Let's see what wiki says shall we? Sounds much less horrific. In fact it looks like your source uses loaded language in order to create an emotional response. What I found [USER=342011]@PapaZoom[/USER], was that it is possible a fetus is dismembered. But that is not the intent and it appears to be the new buzz word. I found a lot of pro-life sites mentioning dismemberment but zero neutral sites that did so. Nothing on WebMD or other informational sites. I did find a source that I would think pro-choice that says this is the new emotive language being used to attack abortion. In conclusion I find a lack of information to back up your claims. I conclude that it can happen in some cases but certainly not the majority and it is mostly highlighted as an attempt to emotionally manipulate people. [/QUOTE]
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