Dating methods continue to get better and better.
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ananda
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Check out retrocausality in quantum entanglement experiments such as the delayed choice quantum eraser. Theoretical physicist John Wheeler, collaborator with Niels Bohr and Einstein among others, stated "The quantum principle shows that there is a sense in which what an observer will do in the future defines what happens in the past."
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In order to change the decay rates of these isotopes, you would need to bombard them with massive amounts of high energy neutrons or extreme temperatures and pressures, conditions that would either end all life on Earth or melt the rocks.
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That is not the same as changing the past. It has to do with the point of observation by the observer. We can observe gamma-rays being emitted from supernovae hundreds of thousands of light years away and measure the half-lives of those isotopes identifiable in the gamma-ray spectrum. From our observation they are occurring as we see them, in reality those events happened hundreds of thousands of years ago. Thus, the position of the observer.
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Doveaman
Re-Created, Not Evolved.
And many old earth creationists and scientists believe that such high energies and extreme temperatures did occur in the past.
Many creationists believe that Genesis 1 is describing the creation of new earth life on an old earth planet following global catastrophes and global extinctions.
And in an electric universe, such high energies and extreme temperatures are expected.
Electrical Planetary Scarring in the Lab:
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They couldn't have occurred without melting the planet into slag and killing all life. It would also destroy all of the fossils that came before that point.
Their beliefs don't match up to the facts.
In an electric universe, this would still turn the Earth into molten rock, kill all life, and destroy all fossils.
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Doveaman
Re-Created, Not Evolved.
The temperatures don't need to be that high. They just need to be high enough to affect the decay rate.
Evidence for Correlations Between Nuclear Decay Rates and Earth-Sun Distance
Variations of decay rates of radio-active elements and their connections with global anisotropy of physical space
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Those findings have not been verified. Even then, they are extremely small changes, not enough to throw dates off by more than 1%.
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Rocks are dated through a very complex and precise chemical process (quantitative analysis) with very sensitive instruments used to identify and quantify specific atoms, molecules, or compounds. Furthermore, laboratories that perform these tasks are completely unconcerned with any geologic sequence of fossils. Paleontologist do not do their own dating with little exception. Samples of the strata in which they are working are carefully taken, isolated, and sent of to laboratories that specialize in specific dating techniques. The exception to that would be if the institution at which they are employed happened to have such facilities in which to perform those tasks.
With respect to the specific method (ATTA) described in the OP of this thread contamination is impossible as it utilizes noble gases which do not react with any other elements or chemicals. It is also unique in that it does not measure a numerically gross quantity, rather it counts individual atoms with a sensitivity of parts per trillion (PPT) and even parts per quadrillion (PPQ) with the ATTA-3 instrumentation. (Note links to full papers I have previously provided).
Regardless of what you have been told, read about in literature outside the scientific community, or have conceived upon on your own, scientists do not disregard information that does not fit a geological sequence of fossils for that specific reason. As in any scientific analysis, problems can occur, thus results may be discarded due to the unreliability of obtained results. This would include dates that do indeed fit your description of a preconceived geologic fossil sequence. What you are suggesting is dishonesty involving the entire scientific community, which amounts to nothing more than fantastical ideas of conspiracy theories. And granted, such cases of what you described may occur, but they are an extreme rarity, and when discovered by the scientific community, the person or persons involved loose all credibility within the greater scientific community.
Going forward, please direct inquiries or concerns specific to the method described in the OP of this thread. Your help in doing this is appreciated. Thank you.
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Changes in decay rates have never been observed. What you are referring to is a long known, observed, and well understood oscillation of a decay rate limited to specific cosmogenic radionuclides with respect to the distance between the earth and the sun during Earth's elliptical orbit. Again, those are annual oscillations, not actual rate changes. They do not affect any radiometric dating method whatsoever.
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