I'm waiting, Jerry Smith for you to address the evidences I have laid out. Would these not be VALID results of such a theory?
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Originally posted by Josephus
I'm waiting, Jerry Smith for you to address the evidences I have laid out. Would these not be VALID results of such a theory?
Originally posted by npetreley
That's what you SAY you do, and probably what most of you THINK you do. But what you REALLY do is go out into the world and look for evidence that you (can) interpret to confirm your hypothesis.
I put "can" in parens because some people unwittingly work that way, but others deliberately do so.
Regardless, that makes all your so-called "evidence" nothing but circular reasoning. You see what you want to see because you already believe that's the proper way to interpret the evidence. So you have no choice but to find what you're looking for.
When you find something that poses a problem, you either throw it out as an anomaly or (as is more often the case) imagine a solution to the problem that allows you to retain your premise that evolution is true.
I am not insuating that you are stupid, a liar or both.
I believe that many of you are so focused on your conclusions that you can't see the forest for the trees, are suffering from spiritual blindness, are self-deceived, in denial, or any combination of the above.
But don't take my word for it. Many evolutionists have already plainly said the same thing for me, and I've provided quotes from them saying so, and posted some of them on this very board. Others have claimed I'm taking the quotes out of context, but the only added context they provide is that these people still believe in evolution. Well, duh -- I wouldn't list them as evolutionists if I meant to question that.
The quotes are from such noted evolutionists as Richard Dawkins, Niles Eldredge, the late Stephen Jay Gould, and perhaps my favorite of all times, the quote from Richard Lewontin, which is more subtle than those you find from the others, but probably the most poignant...
You want to talk about failure to present evidence? Fine - here's a challenge for you (although I may start a new thread for this one, since it should be fun). Name ONE famous evolutionist who examined evidence that was problematic for evolution and publicly proposed in a paper for peer review the possibility that it was problematic because evolution could be wrong. Show me that there is a single famous evolutionist WHO YOU RESPECT AS EDUCATED AND QUALIFIED who really does examine the evidence from an objective perspective.
Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie
Steven Jay Gould
Satisfied?
Originally posted by npetreley
Well, I never saw anything objective written by Gould, but I must admit that Stephen J Gould certainly knows the truth now.
Originally posted by Greeter
Greetings All,
Originally posted by Greeter
I forget who came up with it or if it is even known what philosopher said it but many refer to it as the Las Vegas take on believing in God.
Originally posted by Greeter
That is neat, I will have to remember that name.
I am sure that won't change anyones mind(no one would be more surprised than I if it did). I just put it out there since a similar line was given for the other side.
I am curious though, how can believing in a faith based system hurt us?
I am a fundamentalist. What have I lost in that?
Pascal's wager is a favorite target for atheists,
Originally posted by Jerry Smith
If there is any justice in this world, those who believe in God out of feelings of devotion and faith will be in heaven singing hymns, those who don't believe in God because of strict rational honesty will be worm food, and those who offer Pascal's Wager will be doomed to an eternity of reading the fine print of every Life Insurance policy ever issued.
Originally posted by Jerry Smith
If there is any justice in this world, those who believe in God out of feelings of devotion and faith will be in heaven singing hymns, those who don't believe in God because of strict rational honesty will be worm food, and those who offer Pascal's Wager will be doomed to an eternity of reading the fine print of every Life Insurance policy ever issued.
Originally posted by npetreley
Pascal's wager is a favorite target for atheists, so it's not surprising that you'll find tons of links to articles by people attempting to "disprove" it.