Cruel and Unusual or just Unusually Cruel.

[Ryal Kane]

Maye it's just me, but isn't there something a little off about a group of Christians discussing the most efficient way of killing a man?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2622652-california-execution-delayed.html&page=1

 

[loriersea]

That's very sad to see. There is something more than just a little off about it.

 

[Athene]

Considering the forum this thread is on, I'm not suprised.

 

[Silent Bob]

I was wondering where the voices of reason were during that thread then I saw it was the republican forum...

 

[Maxwell511]

I could have been worse. They could have been talking about the best ways to set up two of their males friends.

 

[CCGirl]

The longer I am on CF, it just reinforces my decision to stay far, far away from religion!

This forum drives people away from Christianity, IMO.

 

[Ophis]

These are people who think eternal torture is just. I see no reason why killing one guy should bother them.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

Wow... I... I am totally speechless.

 

[loriersea]

These are people who think eternal torture is just. I see no reason why killing one guy should bother them.

That just about sums it up.

 

[Aimee30]

They don't understand that executuion is just as bad as what they claim abortion to be. Maybe they should check out what a fellow Christian who claims strongly to be a fundamentalist, but has the odd quirk of saying the quote "the Republican party is God,s party," is not something to be believed has to say about forgiveness, using dearly deceased Poe John Paul as the example for the song. It's called "To Forgive." He also has a song about a criminal accepting God before he is scheduled to be executed. But if you'd like to visit the link to the song, here it is:
http://www.sockheaven.net/music/albums/fritz/04.html

 

[sethad]

I was wondering where the voices of reason were during that thread then I saw it was the republican forum...

*laughs*

Well...IMO democrats arent much better...then again politics in general is messed up.

poli = many
tics = blood sucking parasites

The longer I am on CF, it just reinforces my decision to stay far, far away from religion!

This forum drives people away from Christianity, IMO

No joke.

These are people who think eternal torture is just. I see no reason why killing one guy should bother them.

Yea...its pretty ironic.

 

[Brimshack]

I keep imagining Jesus were making those posts. It is the party of God after all. Republican Jesus probably wears amo belts and talks about the virtues of one-shot-one-kill.

 

[ApocryphaNow]

The longer I am on CF, it just reinforces my decision to stay far, far away from religion!

This forum drives people away from Christianity, IMO.

When I see things like that thread, it makes me want to make blanket statements like "I can't believe how hypocritically morally corrupt Christians are." Seriously, the firebrands and fundamentalists scare me as much as any ululating sheik.

However, I eventually come to my senses and realize that these are just people who have lost their way, their heart, and compassion for fellow man. They are (mostly) Christians who have forgotten (or never knew) the spirit of the Bible simply because they are blinded through reading it so literally. I feel sorry for people who have so much faith in the idolous God they have invented and so little faith in their fellow man.

I suppose that is what I really think it boils down to. It isn't a Christian issue, it's and issue with people not caring about others (unless that "other" happens to be in somebody's uterus... then they would kill you before they let you kill it).

 

[12volt_man]

Maye it's just me, but isn't there something a little off about a group of Christians discussing the most efficient way of killing a man?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2622652-california-execution-delayed.html&page=1

I don't see why. After all, it was God who instituted the death penalty.

For the record, we need to bring back public hangings.

Let's march these jokers out in front of the state house and just get it over with.

 

[12volt_man]

I keep imagining Jesus were making those posts. It is the party of God after all. Republican Jesus probably wears amo belts and talks about the virtues of one-shot-one-kill.

You mean the same Jesus who instituted the death penalty? The same Jesus who stood before Pilate and told Pilate that his authority to carry out capital punishment on behalf of the state came directly from God? The same Jesus who ordered His disciples to go out and buy swords to protect themselves with? The same Jesus who, when Peter cut off the servants' ear, didn't rebuke him for trying to kill the man, but for his lousy timing? The same Jesus who has no problem consigning sinners to Hell? The same Jesus who frequently uses violent imagery to describe His dealings with the wicked? The same Jesus who says that He will return with a sword? The same Jesus who is a part of the Godhead that ordered the Isarelites to slaughter entire populations and entire nations in order to protect Israel?

You mean that Jesus?

 

[Brimshack]

Well perhaps you are right. Perhaps Jesus was a bloodthirsty character after all. I somehow doubt it, but I'd be happy to see your evidence for each and every one of those claims. Might belong in apologetics, actually. But it would be interesting.

 

[12volt_man]

Well perhaps you are right. Perhaps Jesus was a bloodthirsty character after all.

No, Jesus is not "bloodthirsty", but He does require that sin be punished.

I somehow doubt it, but I'd be happy to see your evidence for each and every one of those claims.

According to your avatar, you're an atheist. You don't believe the Bible, anyway.

 

[Brimshack]

It's okay 12 Volt, you don't have to back your own claims. No problem.

 

[12volt_man]

It's okay 12 Volt, you don't have to back your own claims. No problem.

Since these things are well known in Christian teaching and since you don't believe the Bible, anyway, I don't see the point.

 

[Brimshack]

Whether or not I believe in the Bible is irrelevant. The question is whether or not your vision of Jesus is rooted in the text of the Bible. And claiming your position is established beyond question is just another way of refusing to put your cards on the table. So be it, but for the record, your post will be my evidence. The Jesus you describe is bloodthirsty. Call it any other name, punishment for sin, what have you. Call it Fred if you like, but the quality you celebrate in your post is bloodthirst. Thank you 12 Volt. You have proven my point, even if you are unwilling to prove your own.