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Creationists dressing up themodynamic laws with a null hypotheses.
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<blockquote data-quote="Alunyel" data-source="post: 53068282"><p>Honestly, I'm not too hot on thermodynamics (See what I did there? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite234" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbsup:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" />), but as I understand it, the 2nd law is that energy balances itself out, eventually. Whilst the first law states that the amount of energy is a constant (Which is <em>exactly</em> the opposite of creationism.), as that energy gets transferred into other types of energy, it eventually reaches a balanced equilibrium. Which is at a point where the energy flow can comfortably stop flowing. For example, a tank of hot water will eventually become room temperature, but until it does, it'll increase the temperature of the area around it. Whilst no energy is actually lost, it just becomes kinda... less concentrated. The heat energy stored in the tank will eventually dissipate into the surrounding system.</p><p></p><p>I really can't see how that has <em>anything</em> to do with small genetic mutations amounting to larger genetic mutations resulting in physical differences and the survival of the mutated genetic code and physical differences that're more suited to survive.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>Without the second law, life wouldn't even be able to exist, let alone evolve. We get all of our energy from the Sun, if the second law didn't apply, then none of that energy would be transferred to Earth, meaning there'd be no available energy to support life on Earth.</p><p></p><p>The <em>Sun</em> wouldn't even exist without the second law, because energy wouldn't be transfered from all of those colliding hydrogen atoms, those colliding atoms wouldn't even be moving...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alunyel, post: 53068282"] Honestly, I'm not too hot on thermodynamics (See what I did there? :thumbsup:), but as I understand it, the 2nd law is that energy balances itself out, eventually. Whilst the first law states that the amount of energy is a constant (Which is [I]exactly[/I] the opposite of creationism.), as that energy gets transferred into other types of energy, it eventually reaches a balanced equilibrium. Which is at a point where the energy flow can comfortably stop flowing. For example, a tank of hot water will eventually become room temperature, but until it does, it'll increase the temperature of the area around it. Whilst no energy is actually lost, it just becomes kinda... less concentrated. The heat energy stored in the tank will eventually dissipate into the surrounding system. I really can't see how that has [I]anything[/I] to do with small genetic mutations amounting to larger genetic mutations resulting in physical differences and the survival of the mutated genetic code and physical differences that're more suited to survive. :confused: Without the second law, life wouldn't even be able to exist, let alone evolve. We get all of our energy from the Sun, if the second law didn't apply, then none of that energy would be transferred to Earth, meaning there'd be no available energy to support life on Earth. The [I]Sun[/I] wouldn't even exist without the second law, because energy wouldn't be transfered from all of those colliding hydrogen atoms, those colliding atoms wouldn't even be moving... [/QUOTE]
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