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Creationist explain the Miocene please
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<blockquote data-quote="ChordatesLegacy" data-source="post: 49072419" data-attributes="member: 193033"><p>Here we go Juv'y</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">MICROSCOPIC QUARTZ CRYSTALS IN</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">BROWN COAL. VICTORIA</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">GBoncB Baxun,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">U nia er s ily of M elb o urne, V i ci or ia, A us lr ali a.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Arsrrucr</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Minute, doubly-terminated crystals of quartz showing simple crystallographic forms occur in patches in the <strong>Tertiary Brown Coal</strong> at two localities in Victoria. They have crystallisedfrom solutions derived either from the <strong>magma of the overlying basalt flows</strong>, or from vadose waters.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Underground mining operations at the Parwan Colliery, 27 miles W.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">N.W. of Melbourne, have revealed that the upper 12 leet of the hard,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">earthy Parwan brown coal seam is impregnated with minute, doublyterminated</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">qu.artz crystals. The top of the seam is exposed in the inclined</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">main heading leading northwards from the shaft.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The <strong>coal seam, which is Miocene in age (Parr , tg42), is about 100 feet</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>thick, and lies at a depth of 405 feet</strong> below the surface. immediately</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">above the seam is <strong>a 9 foot thick bed of pyritic sands</strong>, partly cemented,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">but largely so unconsolidated that it rills down into the workings if the</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">top of the seam is broken through. Above the sands are fossiliferous</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">marine clays, which are capped <strong>by two thick flows of Newer Volcanic</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>basalt,</strong> of a total thickness amounting to approximately 250 feet. <strong>A basaltic</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>dyke, about 3 feet wide, has intruded the coal seam in the area</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong>impregnated with quartz crystals</strong>. The coal adjacent to the dyke developed</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">minute shrinkage cracks which were filled with threads of basalt.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The quartz crystals are most abundantly developed at the roof of the</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">seam, and diminish in both quantity and size with inciease in depth</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">below it, being practically absent at !2 feet below the roof. Ash determinations</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">made at the Victorian Mines Department Laboratory show that</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">in the top six feetof coal the ash, which consists chiefly oI quartzcrystals</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">varies from I4.257o to 26.95/6, while in coal from 6 to 12 feet below the</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">top of the seam, the ash content is only 7/6. The average ash content of</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">the coal as mined (at 30 feet below the top of the seam) js 5To.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The decreasei n the size of the crystals with increasing depth below the</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">top of the seam, is shown by the following measurements</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM31/AM31_22.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LINK</span></span></a></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So Juvy do you still maintain that there are no basaltic flows interleaved with brown coals. Also it is obvious that creationists with their magical mystical biblical flood are completely wrong, these deposits are subaerial.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ChordatesLegacy, post: 49072419, member: 193033"] Here we go Juv'y [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]MICROSCOPIC QUARTZ CRYSTALS IN[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]BROWN COAL. VICTORIA[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]GBoncB Baxun,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]U nia er s ily of M elb o urne, V i ci or ia, A us lr ali a.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Arsrrucr[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Minute, doubly-terminated crystals of quartz showing simple crystallographic forms occur in patches in the [B]Tertiary Brown Coal[/B] at two localities in Victoria. They have crystallisedfrom solutions derived either from the [B]magma of the overlying basalt flows[/B], or from vadose waters.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Underground mining operations at the Parwan Colliery, 27 miles W.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]N.W. of Melbourne, have revealed that the upper 12 leet of the hard,[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]earthy Parwan brown coal seam is impregnated with minute, doublyterminated[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]qu.artz crystals. The top of the seam is exposed in the inclined[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]main heading leading northwards from the shaft.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The [B]coal seam, which is Miocene in age (Parr , tg42), is about 100 feet[/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B]thick, and lies at a depth of 405 feet[/B] below the surface. immediately[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]above the seam is [B]a 9 foot thick bed of pyritic sands[/B], partly cemented,[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]but largely so unconsolidated that it rills down into the workings if the[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]top of the seam is broken through. Above the sands are fossiliferous[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]marine clays, which are capped [B]by two thick flows of Newer Volcanic[/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B]basalt,[/B] of a total thickness amounting to approximately 250 feet. [B]A basaltic[/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B]dyke, about 3 feet wide, has intruded the coal seam in the area[/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B]impregnated with quartz crystals[/B]. The coal adjacent to the dyke developed[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]minute shrinkage cracks which were filled with threads of basalt.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The quartz crystals are most abundantly developed at the roof of the[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]seam, and diminish in both quantity and size with inciease in depth[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]below it, being practically absent at !2 feet below the roof. Ash determinations[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]made at the Victorian Mines Department Laboratory show that[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]in the top six feetof coal the ash, which consists chiefly oI quartzcrystals[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]varies from I4.257o to 26.95/6, while in coal from 6 to 12 feet below the[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]top of the seam, the ash content is only 7/6. The average ash content of[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]the coal as mined (at 30 feet below the top of the seam) js 5To.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The decreasei n the size of the crystals with increasing depth below the[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]top of the seam, is shown by the following measurements[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [URL="http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM31/AM31_22.pdf"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]LINK[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]So Juvy do you still maintain that there are no basaltic flows interleaved with brown coals. Also it is obvious that creationists with their magical mystical biblical flood are completely wrong, these deposits are subaerial.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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