TPop
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THIS. If I knew a church or pastor that does this, how much would I be fully invested and all in on supporting them with my tithing. The problem is, they are not like this at all. The pastor(s) and the church(es) I know do not give their time to us (me), do not go out of their way for my welfare, do not teach me, I mean nothing other than "maintenance" which is...just making sure the church is running. I still appreciate their efforts in running the basic systems (worship service, sermons) but outside of maintenance, I experience an incredible lack of support and lack of their caring about us (me) as individuals. I know they aren't superman so I can't expect them to do everything and be perfect, but do I feel like they are someone or something I would be willing to give to even after I wasn't there anymore? No. I wish I could feel that way about someone or some church but they are not doing what I believe a church should be doing or "pastors/leaders/called out ones" should be doing. Just a little effort is all I ask....not for perfection. Just show me that Christ lives in you because if He truly did, you would care about me and love me rather than just see me as a number (to the pastors/churches).
How big is the church? They were all very small in early NT times. I don't agree with 500+ member churches. Certainly not with 1k, 5k, 20k churches.
Small churches have more accountability up and down.
Remember, the deacons, which are those that typically provide support to families, can only do so much. They are not full time counselors. And they are not even good counselors/therapists. If one needs therapy, find a good Christian Social Worker. Avoid church counselors for significant concerns. They do not have the training.
And the church is not just leaders. It is you and others like you. Go give support yourself. To others. In the church. You many find what you need through that process. Or you may just be a blessing and that may be of help.
Peace and Blessings
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