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Really?
Noting that Brian Williams did not make his claim on the Nightly News. Not that it matters to some folks.
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This is absolute piffle from start to finish. Everything you've listed here I've seen liberals do in one form or another. I'm still happy to identify as liberal, but the sanctimony on our side really has to end. Pretending that liberals don't resort to tribalism and faith-based beliefs in exactly the same way as conservatives do is completely wrongheaded.
....Also, too many people are not looking at the real issue here, which is that they've become programmed to tune in to various news editorialization channels. What you're getting really isn't the news on any of them.
Note that I said "extreme conservatives" and am not talking about normal conservatives.
Also note how successful the conservative campaign on the word "liberal" is, as you inadvertently equate liberal with "extreme conservative" instead of equating "extreme liberal" with "extreme conservative".
food for thought.
I would merely suggest one might consider that the word "liberal" was itself hijacked by "progressives" when the American public became horrified with the progressive agenda of the first half of the 20th century.Note that I said "extreme conservatives" and am not talking about normal conservatives.
Also note how successful the conservative campaign on the word "liberal" is, as you inadvertently equate liberal with "extreme conservative" instead of equating "extreme liberal" with "extreme conservative".
food for thought.
I think this is part of the problem, however to me the real issue is that most people are not familiar with identifying, conducting, or evaluating a logical argument. Most people inadvertently fall for , emotional appeals, quibbling, spin, and logical fallacy arguments that news orgs use (Fox gets the blue ribbon for this).
Here's a list of lies for you http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-checks-behind-daily-shows-50-fox-news-lies/I get tired of the alphabet stations carrying the cover-up badge for the corruption in our government.
All you ever hear is that Fox News lies - but they never list the lies. I have found they report both sides, however I can't listen to most of the liberals on Fox, but realize they have to have them.
Some of those lies are correct, some of them are debatable. For example the quote on more children dying from accidental gunshots than from drowning in the bathtub. They had to count kids that were 15-17 to claim that was a "lie" and at that age I am not sure if the title "children" still applies. And it was still fairly close.Here's a list of lies for you http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-checks-behind-daily-shows-50-fox-news-lies/
yeah right.FWIW, you could accuse liberals of similar actions but truth be told, liberals just are not as good as conservatives with the above. Liberals are in elementary school with the above actions whereas Conservatives are finishing up their PhDs
And that is the gist of why FOX News is no longer a reliable source. Too many fans still remember when they actually had some value. Just as both the History Channel and The Learning Channel started out with good educational shows and then they found that there was more money to be made by aiming at the least educated of all viewers. They used to be stations worth watching for informative programs, now the most "informative" shows that they have are about hoarders or pawn shops.yeah right.
Extremists are - by definition - idiots. And it doesn't matter which "side" they're on. Just 2 sides of the same ridiculous, blind, and totally irrational coin.
I make no claim either way. SharonL said they never list the lies, I provided a list. Debate the specifics all you like.Some of those lies are correct, some of them are debatable. For example the quote on more children dying from accidental gunshots than from drowning in the bathtub. They had to count kids that were 15-17 to claim that was a "lie" and at that age I am not sure if the title "children" still applies. And it was still fairly close.
And of course Obama did create the largest tax increase ever seen for the American people. what was not brought up by your source there is the fact that the Affordable Health Care Act is a tax, the Supreme Court used that rationalization to say that it was legal. If it was not a tax the action taken would not have been constitutional. That it did not make that much difference in the average American net earnings is besides the point. Technically it is still a tax, and a huge one.
Whenever I've argued with extreme conservatives, I am always impressed at their ability to refuse to acknowledge truths or admit they are wrong about something. It's like a kind of truth immunity, that is, they have a system of beliefs that are immune to any fact, argument, evidence, or data that disproves their beliefs.
But it goes further than that.... its hard to explain. Conservatives have done a great job demonizing and sabotaging opposing views.
In fact, it's like there is a systematic campaign to not only demonize the other side but to ensure that no matter what, opposing viewpoints cannot get through the brainwashing.
For instance, Take the word "liberal". Conservatives have actually turned that word into a serious negative over the past two decades. But it goes further than that... Man it's so hard to explain....
I remember arguing once with a conservative about XYZ...
Having watched Fox News for years and listened to Rush Limbaugh for years, I honestly have to give them credit for the level of brainwashing, spin, obfuscation, quibbling, twisting, and downright lies they spew.
They have created an impressive paradigm in which it is impossible to disprove them.
Trying to disprove them is akin to trying to catch a fish swimming in a vat a vegetable oil with your bare hands.
And truth be told, I am impressed by the brainwashing paradigm conservatives have created.
#1) Turning "liberal" into a bad word.
#2) Associating "liberal" with all things evil.
#3) Deifying Reagan to a Conservative God while simultaneously forgetting "liberal" actions Reagan championed
#4) Rewriting , Revising, and Spinning History
#5) Keeping the fight alive for legal issues that have long been decided by the Supreme Court and American Public
#6) Creating a list of "enemies" of the conservative party and thus enemies of America
#7) Creating a state of mind where only Conservatives love and protect America while everyone else is hell bent on destroying the country (this is absolute genius and deserves a tip of the hat)
#8) Creating a false dichotomy to where opposition to Conservative ideals and principles is synonymous with destroying America
I could go on.
FWIW, you could accuse liberals of similar actions but truth be told, liberals just are not as good as conservatives with the above.
I would merely suggest one might consider that the word "liberal" was itself hijacked by "progressives" when the American public became horrified with the progressive agenda of the first half of the 20th century.
7 Lies Liberals Tell Young Americans
Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/john...erals-tell-young-americans-n1781015/page/full
Who says morality doesn't matter?
Yeh. That's what I explained in the previous answer above.Also, faith isn't good. It represses an oppresses people, and has no justification.
"Can be" doesn't do much to help people. By contrast, Christians did it...and because of their faith.All good done by Christians can be done by non-Christians.
Liberals and Liberalism. Didn't you read the article" No mind; it's quite obvious. Whatever sleaze or dishonesty or selfishness it is, Liberals will find a way to rationalize it as good and normal.
Yeh. That's what I explained in the previous answer above.
'Can be'
doesn't do much to help people. By contrast, Christians did it...and because of their faith.