Climate scientist Michael Mann wins million-dollar verdict against right-wing bloggers

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Michael Mann, a prominent climate scientist, won his long-standing legal battle against two right-wing bloggers who claimed that he manipulated data in his research and compared him to convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky, a major victory for the outspoken researcher.

A jury in a civil trial in Washington on Thursday found that the two writers, Rand Simberg and Mark Steyn, defamed and injured the researcher in a pair of blog posts published in 2012, and awarded him more than $1 million.

The verdict is a dozen years in the making for the climatologist, who for decades has been a target of right-wing critics over his famous “hockey stick” graph.

Simberg was found liable for statements that compared Mann to Sandusky but was cleared on other statements criticizing Mann’s scientific work.

During closing arguments, Steyn, a radio and TV personality who spoke for himself during much of the trial, said he still “stand{s} on the truth of every word I wrote about Michael Mann, his fraudulent hockey stick and the corrupt investigative process at Penn State.”
 
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The lawsuit is the news.

As for the science, research over the decades since the original hockey stick graph have only confirmed and refined its shape.

“The stick head has grown taller as we have continued to warm – as predicted – for the last 22 years,” said Dr Robin Lamboll, Research Associate in Climate Science and Policy, Imperial College London.
Lamboll added: “The different ways to estimate historic climates have become more numerous, but all with broadly the same message, and so the conclusions of the original graph have become only more solid since 1999.”
As Mann outlined in a peer-reviewed article accompanying the 2021 version (here), the updated, longer reconstruction further strengthens the argument that Earth’s recent warming is a historical anomaly.
Only man-made climate change could explain the “unprecedented warming trend” in studies using climate models, he wrote, citing the Fifth Assessment Report of the IPCC, published in 2013 (here).
 
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The relevant statement: Simberg was found liable for statements that compared Mann to Sandusky but was cleared on other statements criticizing Mann’s scientific work.

Yeah, don't go around comparing ANYONE to Sandusky. no matter who you are disparaging. Slam-dunk on the defamation win.
 
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The relevant statement: Simberg was found liable for statements that compared Mann to Sandusky but was cleared on other statements criticizing Mann’s scientific work.

Yeah, don't go around comparing ANYONE to Sandusky. no matter who you are disparaging. Slam-dunk on the defamation win.
What about Paterno?
 
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Just this week, they considered naming the stadium after him. But the consensus appears to be "Too soon".
You know, our standards seem to have slipped. Paterno reported the problems, which was right, but took no action himself. Which was wrong. But now we have a congressman who knew about a doctor molesting kids he was coaching, and said nothing at all.

Jim Jordan is despicable.
 
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Not all climate deniers are that unhinged, but unfortunately their fruitcakery of a few extremists reflects on them all.
The extremists are on both ends of the climate discussion. But yes, this guy crossed a line on his statements.

Better to avoid ad hominem attacks altogether in every setting (which includes the "fruitcakery" pejorative comment in your post) and merely focus on content of the topic.
 
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Better to avoid ad hominem attacks altogether in every setting (which includes the "fruitcakery" pejorative comment in your post) and merely focus on content of the topic.
spade=spade
 
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