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Baptism of the Holy Ghost

Discussion in 'Pentecostal/Assemblies of God' started by tulipbee, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. tulipbee

    tulipbee Worker of the Hive

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    What does it feel like when the Holy Ghost comes down from your head to your body? Is this the Baptism of the Holy Ghost or just a continues flow of the holy Ghost?
     
  2. TheCunctator

    TheCunctator Dio, abbi pietà su questa anima miserabile!

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    Well the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is when the Holy Spirit comes down upon you, and you feel because it is immensely emotional (for most people). You might feel and overwhelming sensation upon your heart as well as on your shoulders, and if it truly is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, then you will see evidence of it by speaking in tongues.
     
  3. stormdancer0

    stormdancer0 Do not be so open-minded that your brain falls out

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    There will be a definite change in your life. Love will prevail, forgiveness is easier, and I personally found out that I was making better choices in what I wore, what I read, and what I watched.
     
  4. tulipbee

    tulipbee Worker of the Hive

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    What if you prayed and prayed for the Baptism of fire and not get them. Does that make you not saved?
     
  5. tulipbee

    tulipbee Worker of the Hive

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    What are the variations of Baptism? What are the different levels from semi-truly to truly?
     
  6. TheCunctator

    TheCunctator Dio, abbi pietà su questa anima miserabile!

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    I don't understand what you mean?

    The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is one experience, and that's it. There are no different levels, you can't be "a little bit baptized" in as much as you can't be "a little bit pregnant".

    No, of course not. It simply means that it wasn't your time.
    I've prayed for it twice already, and it failed both times. But it doesn't mean I'm not saved. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a different experience from salvation.
     
  7. tulipbee

    tulipbee Worker of the Hive

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    Doesn't being saved means you're baptized by the Holy Spirit? How does one get saved without the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
     
  8. lilmissmontana

    lilmissmontana singing my hallelujah song

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    Being saved means you're not hell bound.
     
  9. tulipbee

    tulipbee Worker of the Hive

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    So, the saved is heaven Bounded or is there another process to get on that boat while one isn't hell bound? Theres something neutral bounded I sense in this conversation. I don't know the Pentecostal language.
     
  10. lilmissmontana

    lilmissmontana singing my hallelujah song

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    I apologize ... I could have worded that better. Salvation is not the same thing as baptism. You won't go to hell for not being baptized. You will go to hell if you're not saved. Only salvation through Jesus Christ (not baptism) can save us.

    I think it needs to be perfectly clear salvation is through Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ ... it's my personal opinion that all the other stuff draws away from what we're here for ... to keep our eyes focused on Jesus ... It's not my understanding anywhere in scripture that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is our saviour.
     
  11. TheCunctator

    TheCunctator Dio, abbi pietà su questa anima miserabile!

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    Pentecostals believe that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is an entirely separate event from salvation. We believe that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, though, brings you on yet another great level with the Lord. But we do not believe that Christians who cannot speak in tongues are not saved. Of course they are.

    It is, however, possible that they occur simultaneously. If you repent and pray with a few friends the Holy Spirit might come on you and give you the baptism.
     
  12. lilmissmontana

    lilmissmontana singing my hallelujah song

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    well said
     
  13. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Compassion is the basis of the teachings . Supporter

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    This is how i understand it (sorry if i am repeating anyone)

    The Holy Spirit is continually pouring down since pentecost . and though this may "immerse" you the immersion of the Holy Spirit (as according to the Pentecostal/AoG statement of faith) appears to be when the believer is first "Full" of the Holy Spirit . and this is regarded as an extra thing that happens after salvation . though one may begin to receive the Holy Spirit at salvation .

    if i am off on something i am sure i will be corrected . i know this is an important topic for the pentecostal/AoG denomination . but this is how i understand the stance of the Statement of faith in context of scripture and my own experience .

    hope that helps .
     
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