Are you ready for martial law?

[jhessel]

If another attack occurs, whether it be by islamic terrorists, or by islamics working for our own govt (inside job) like Michael Moore or Alex Jones would say, how long will the land of the free remain free?

let the countdown begin.

Are You Ready For A Militarized Police Force?

"The Bush administration is calling for the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, a law passed after the Civil War to prohibit the deployment of federal military forces onto American streets to control civil action - otherwise known as martial law."

U.S. Mulling How to Delay Nov. Vote in Case of Attack

"U.S. counterterrorism officials are looking at an emergency proposal on the legal steps needed to postpone the November presidential election in case of an attack by al Qaeda, Newsweek reported on Sunday.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned last week that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda network may attack within the United States to try to disrupt the election.

The magazine cited unnamed sources who told it that the Department of Homeland Security asked the Justice Department (news - web sites) last week to review what legal steps would be needed to delay the election if an attack occurred on the day before or the day of the election."

Ridge warns of al-Qaida attack aimed at U.S. elections

"The United States is tightening security in the face of a steady stream of intelligence indicating al-Qaida may seek to mount an attack aimed at disrupting elections, the White House said.

The Department of Homeland Security is addressing the threat and has efforts under way to "ramp up security," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday."

-- RELATED LINKS
The Coming American Holocaust (Christians should read this one)

 

[Grizzly]

Michael Moore is an "islamic"?

 

[Billnew]

Wow,
Planning ahead=overthrowing the government as we know it?
9-11 taught the government to expect the unexpected.
No single person should be able to change the date of the election, and the leaders are just saying what if an attack like spain happened what could they do and what should be done.
Unless the attack was directly affecting the election (elections comittee or other disorientation to the government) The election must go on as scheduled.
But our safeguards must be in effect to prevent mass voter fraud. In otherwords,
If we could not be sure the election could be validated, we couldn't hold an election.
Because the loser would say the other stole the election.(such as we had last Presidential election but on a larger scale.(nation wide, hanging chads)

Martial law is what the terrorists want the government to due. It proves freedom doesn't work.

With Spain and Philipines surrendering to terrorist demands, I have no doubt they will try to attack our elections. To effect our politics is their goal.

This is their thinking.

I have learned that our system isn't perfect but nothing drastic will be allowed.

Please keep bringing the paranoid(left and right) wing to the light, The sky and government will not fall. But someday I might be surprised.

When you fight with the pen, the sword is not needed. But you must have the sword to keep the right to use the pen.

 

[Piano Player]

Read what California Anti-Terrorism Information Center spokesman Mike Van Winkle had to say recently to the Oakland Tribune (May 18, 2003): "You can make an easy kind of link that, if you have a protest group protesting a war where the cause that's being fought against is international terrorism, you might have terrorism at that protest...You can almost argue that a protest against that is a terrorist act."

This is shocking. When protest becomes a "terrorist act" our democracy has lost.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Jhessel, jhessel, jhessel....

.............

-_-

 

[Glaz]

Well, if (IF meaning hypothetical) there was another large scale terrorist attack on America you can expect martial law if it involved WMD's. It would depend on the scale/ scope of the attack. Worst case scenario is an American city being nuked causing tens of thousands of deaths if not even higher. In that case, you can expect to see things change drastically security wise in our country, regardless of which party is in power. I have little doubt personally that this will occur one day, after we relax enough and let our guard down again, which we will and our terrorist enemies are counting on.

 

[PrNcSsChRmNg91]

With Spain and Philipines surrendering to terrorist demands, I have no doubt they will try to attack our elections. To effect our politics is their goal.

How did Spain surrender to terrorist demands? Last time I checked the majority of Spain was against the war in Iraq but the leader decided to go into Iraq anyways against the will of the people.

 

[Arturis]

I have no problem with it. During WWII there were temporary (emphasis temporary) civil liberty repeals affecting Americans of German, Italian and Asian descent, amongst others. These repeals were unfortunate to those affected but necessary during a state of global war. Once the war ended, the liberties were returned.

It would have to be the same in this situation; otherwise, it would most likely spark a new civil war. Not a good idea when we are already fighting WWIII.

In other words, the only reason why one should be worried about having our military on our streets is not the martial law but rather the disaster that necessitated it.

 

[UberLutheran]

Judging from so many of the ultra far-right posts I've read in CF, I would have suspected many of you to welcome an authoritarian takeover and a militarized police force!

To wit:

- Posts condemning anybody who, for any reason, speaks out against the President, the Republican Party, or the neo-conservatives as "unAmerican" and "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" and "supporting Saddam Hussein".

- Posts condemning anybody who dares ask people to think through their respective pro-life or pro-choice positions as "baby killers".

- Posts condemning anybody who dares to question a literal interpretation of the Scriptures on the grounds that what was written just might have a different meaning than the one we'd like to give it, due to the fact that the passage in question was written in a different time, a different place, a different historical context and the meanings of the word just might evolve over 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 years or 5,000 years!.

- Posts condemning the failure of democracy -- in particular, this republic -- because our system of laws and government dares to presume that people who are liberal, or dissidents, or feminist, or environmentalist, or gay (or anybody who dares not conform with the message of the ultra far-right) have a right to exist and even have a right to the same life, liberty and pursuit of happiness even though the far right doesn't agree with it!

- Posts equating the will of George Bush with the will of God (surely the absolute zenith of blasphemy!).

How laughable that Christians on the far-right social and political spectrum automatically assume that they will be the ones sent to the concentration camps! Was it not John Ashcroft, one of the pillars of religious neoconservatism, who suggested that one in 25 Americans ought to "spy" on their neighbors (and families) for any sign of non-conformist thought or disagreement with administration policy? Was it not your illustrious, appointed President who said, "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

Let's get real. The folks who are most likely to end up in concentration camps, should America become a authoritarian dictatorship, will be liberals, freethinkers, a goodly number of liberal Christians, Jews, non-Christians, feminists, environmentalists, dissidents, gays and lesbians, and atheists.

What kind of authoritarian dictatorship will be most likely be looking at? Most likely a reconstructionist theocracy which incorporates most of the Old Testament punishments against nonconformists; but weds an authoritarian state church, the state, and the economy together into one all-encompassing unit. Non-conformers will simply not be tolerated.

The kind of dictatorship we are heading for will be Christianity's answer to the Taliban -- a complete affront to Christ's message of good news and redemption, with people judged not by who they are but how they behave, and certain severe punishment for anybody who dares dissent.

You want to see what an authoritarian dictatorship will look like? Just look to the actions of this illustrious, appointed administration over the past three years. THAT will give you an idea of what lies ahead!

 

[notto]

My name is John and I would like to be your penpal. If you could just give me your home addres, phone and SSN, we can write and become close friends. Do you like helicopters? I have a black one.

Your Friend,

John Ashcoft.

 

[charis]

yup

that's what people said about people who talked about the administration postponing the elections

 

[Arturis]

Judging from so many of the ultra far-right posts I've read in CF, I would have suspected many of you to welcome an authoritarian takeover and a militarized police force!

To wit:

- Posts condemning anybody who, for any reason, speaks out against the President, the Republican Party, or the neo-conservatives as "unAmerican" and "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" and "supporting Saddam Hussein".

- Posts condemning anybody who dares ask people to think through their respective pro-life or pro-choice positions as "baby killers".

- Posts condemning anybody who dares to question a literal interpretation of the Scriptures on the grounds that what was written just might have a different meaning than the one we'd like to give it, due to the fact that the passage in question was written in a different time, a different place, a different historical context and the meanings of the word just might evolve over 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 years or 5,000 years!.

- Posts condemning the failure of democracy -- in particular, this republic -- because our system of laws and government dares to presume that people who are liberal, or dissidents, or feminist, or environmentalist, or gay (or anybody who dares not conform with the message of the ultra far-right) have a right to exist and even have a right to the same life, liberty and pursuit of happiness even though the far right doesn't agree with it!

- Posts equating the will of George Bush with the will of God (surely the absolute zenith of blasphemy!).

How laughable that Christians on the far-right social and political spectrum automatically assume that they will be the ones sent to the concentration camps! Was it not John Ashcroft, one of the pillars of religious neoconservatism, who suggested that one in 25 Americans ought to "spy" on their neighbors (and families) for any sign of non-conformist thought or disagreement with administration policy? Was it not your illustrious, appointed President who said, "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

Let's get real. The folks who are most likely to end up in concentration camps, should America become a authoritarian dictatorship, will be liberals, freethinkers, a goodly number of liberal Christians, Jews, non-Christians, feminists, environmentalists, dissidents, gays and lesbians, and atheists.

What kind of authoritarian dictatorship will be most likely be looking at? Most likely a reconstructionist theocracy which incorporates most of the Old Testament punishments against nonconformists; but weds an authoritarian state church, the state, and the economy together into one all-encompassing unit. Non-conformers will simply not be tolerated.

The kind of dictatorship we are heading for will be Christianity's answer to the Taliban -- a complete affront to Christ's message of good news and redemption, with people judged not by who they are but how they behave, and certain severe punishment for anybody who dares dissent.

You want to see what an authoritarian dictatorship will look like? Just look to the actions of this illustrious, appointed administration over the past three years. THAT will give you an idea of what lies ahead!

LOL...get a grip man! For every right-wing, realist or conservative view there are just as many if not more far left ultra liberal ones. The truth is that the farther to either side you get the more irrational you become. This post is a prime example of left wingnut.

Take it easy...we are not headed for a ultra right wing totolitarian talibanesque regime. Geeze, you need to stop watching dirt-bag inspired, half baked movies like fahrenheight 9/11 and absorbing too many liberal conspiracy theories from www.rense.com.

Take a deep breath, step back from the ledge you are teetering on and repeat after me..."there is no place like home...there is no place like home...there is no place like home".

 

[steelmagnolia]

LOL Arturis, your reply was timely and refreshing - caught me off guard

 

[the_cheat]

My name is John and I would like to be your penpal. If you could just give me your home addres, phone and SSN, we can write and become close friends. Do you like helicopters? I have a black one.

Your Friend,

John Ashcoft.

Wait...that's actually not that wacky.

 

[theoneway]

It can't happen here...yeah, right. NO administration in U.S. history has ever attempted the kind of outrageous, impeachable offenses that this one has. There is no possible way that the "Patriot Act" could have been written between 9/11 and the time it was forced into law (without our "representatives" having the opportunity to read what they were signing into law). There is plenty of evidence that what became the "Patriot Act" was simply wannabe Fuhrer W's wishlist. There is also plenty of evidence that the Patriot Act has been used against U.S. citizens who have nothing to do with "terrorism" (peace activists, outspoken musicians, etc.). Not only that, but do you know what W was doing while we were all busy being boondoggled by footage of "Saddam Hussein being captured"? Quietly signing the even more draconian Patriot II into law, which makes the first Patriot Act look mild. Wake up, kiddos...

UberLutheran hit the nail on the head; Revelation prophesies about just such a union of church and state. There are very obviously many who would love to turn the U.S. into just such a theocracy, and they will gladly get behind (and throw money at) anyone whom they think will give them what they want. As far as this administration is concerned, the veneer of Christianity is really just a cover story for something much worse. If you're not alarmed and outraged by these things, you should be, and if you're not alarmed and outraged by them then you probably also know little about the principles on which this country was founded.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-James Madison

 

[jameseb]

Groovy... martial law. It rocks.


But seriously, I don't think this is all part of some diabolical plan by Bush to overthrow democracy and become King Bush II.

 

[Billnew]

How did Spain surrender to terrorist demands? Last time I checked the majority of Spain was against the war in Iraq but the leader decided to go into Iraq anyways against the will of the people.

It doesn't matter what public oppinion says,
Government policy was changed after a terrorist attack. Terrorist wins.

 

[Mϋzikdϋde]

Did anyone take the time to consider the source?

http://www.vallejonews.com/doc/whatis/

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Articles written by citizens, not journalists. Edited by who?

 

[jhessel]

Articles written by citizens, not journalists. Edited by who?

mainstream news sources are controlled by the new world order globalist elite. I learned about the attacks before the election in 2003 from an article I read at an alternative news site. You people are just learning about it from cnn and the fox news reports from a week + ago!

You can't trust the mainstream media.

 

[neocon]

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The Coming American Holocaust (Christians should read this one)

"Who will be doing the actual picking up? Foreign ‘cops’ (United Nations Internal Security Forces). Over 30 foreign military bases under the United Nations flag are already set up in the US., all with the approval of special appointees in high Federal positions. These bases are already manned with over ONE MILLION troops from Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, and Asian countries. Why are they here? Because unlike our own troops —many of which along with the Guard and Reserve of 24 states are being deployed overseas — will have no qualms about firing on U.S. citizens when the time comes. There are more than 2,000 Russian tanks, military trucks and chemical warfare vehicles just outside Gulfport, Mississippi. They began arriving in January of 1994. There are 180 foreign troops at Fort Reilly which was confirmed to me by a Brigadier General. There are 300 who came into the Birmingham, Alabama airport on a big white Russian cargo plane on December 13, 1995. As of 1995, there were 10,000 plus foreign troops at Fort Chafee, Arkansas reportedly making preparations for 20,000 ‘detainees.’ This is going on all over the country. German troops are known to be at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, and Fort Hood, Texas. Chinese troops are known to be at the Long Beach Naval Station in California. There’s not going to be some future event when the invading troops are going to show up. They’re already here! When martial law is implemented, these foreign U.N. troops will be policing our country, carrying out the plans of the New World Order.....................





Prove it.