Are christian breaking Gods commandment, if they do not keep the Sabbath saturday ?

[Mr Pickles]

We see Gods Commandments, all good for our guide and benefit,

if we broke a commandment , say we committed adultery or stole

this would be sin,

so if we do not keep the Sabbath holy, Sabbath being a Saturday

are we breaking Gods commandment?,and is it counted in the same way as a sin ?

 

[Vince53]

All ten of the Commandments were part of the Law, and all have passed away. However, nine of the Ten Commandments are re-commanded in some form in the New Testament. The Sabbath commandment is not. The book of Hebrews tells us that Jesus is our Sabbath.

 

[Juelrei]

We see Gods Commandments, all good for our guide and benefit,

if we broke a commandment , say we committed adultery or stole

this would be sin,

so if we do not keep the Sabbath holy, Sabbath being a Saturday

are we breaking Gods commandment?,and is it counted in the same way as a sin ?

All of the Old Testament commandments of God have a curse attached to them if one does not keep them perfectly.

No human being can perfectly keep all of them, that is why God set the obedience of animal sacrifices to atone for failures to keep his laws. And that guilt and condemnation is remembered annually.

However, under the New Covenant, there is no curse attached, no guilt or condemnation remembered against those who fail to keep the new commandments. We are under grace now, not law.

Those new commandments are those that Jesus gave us. The apostle John wrote in his epistle that they are not grievous.
They are not because we are not required to keep them by our own human efforts. But by seeking God to help us to keep them.

The sabbath day of rest is available to us every day of the week as Jesus stated in Matthew 11:28-30. Time and again in his ministry Jesus "did works" on the Sabbath day which the Pharisees said was unlawful. And thus denying a person due benevolence from God on the Sabbath.

We are not to keep the rigid legalistic laws of the Pharisees. Sunday is the day of Jesus resurrection from the dead. How can anyone bring a judgment against God for doing such an "unlawful work" on the Sabbath?

And how can any Christian be accused of a violation by worshiping God on a Sunday? Well, all Sunday worshipers are. But does God see it as a violation? He'd have to be hypocritical to tell us that we sin by praising him for raising Jesus from the dead on the day of the week that he raised him.

 

[Mr Pickles]

i have put this to Christians who believe we should keep the Sabbath , on this forum

this is their replies , point of view

http://www.christianforums.com/t7707955/

 

[Mr Pickles]

if satan has used counterfeit christianity to enthrone him self , spread deception, false doctrines. to eclipse the real Jesus divine truth true spirituality ,

would we want to be part of this great deception, strong delusion, that will deceive even the elect if this is possible, if they are not on guard watching alert,

if we under stand who and what the beast is, the anti christ seat of power.

does this change our perspective in our walk with Jesus and to his word, commands.


Prophecy Answers-6 Who is the "Beast" who gives the Mark? by David Asscherick - YouTube

 

[Mr Pickles]

i put the question to the Messianic Judaism forum here, regarding the keeping of the Sabbath

some interesting reply's
http://www.christianforums.com/t7708461/

 

[Mr Pickles]

interesting debate on the subject of the law commandments and the Sabbath

http://www.christianforums.com/t7680094/

 

[boldlion]

What was the punishment for breaking the Sabbath in the Old Testament ?

 

[jargew]

This question is very easy to answer based directly on verses in the Bible.
No, it doesn't matter what day you keep as the sabbath, just keep a day holy.

Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.


Romans 14:5-6:
"One person esteems one day above another, another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord . . ."

 

[Mr Pickles]

so far some say yes it is a requirement of every believer, some say no regarding keeping the saturday Sabbath and feast days,

reply from the MJ forum here.

In general (I cannot speak for the whole):
MJ believes, as most, that we are saved by the grace of God through faith in Yeshua and His finished work on the cross. We do not keep the Shabbat to be saved, nor do we obey God's commands (as found in the Torah and Yeshua's words) to be saved. Rather we keep the Shabbat and obey the commands that we can (as best we can) because we have been saved to do these things (work out your salveation, etc.).

Just because Yeshua lived a perfect sinless life, obeyed Torah perfectly, doesn't mean that we no longer have to obey those same commands that He obeyed. Sure, we're not going to do it to the degree that He did, but does that mean we shouldn't do the best we can?

As far as the differences between SDA's observance of the Sabbath and MJ - SDA pretty much treat their Sabbath as mainstream treats Sunday - a few hours on that day set aside to go to church service and maybe Sunday School. Other than those few hours, the day is pretty much like any other day (except many do not work at their daily jobs on Saturday).

MJs begin their Shabbat at sundown on Friday and observe Shabbes until sundown on Saturday. During this time (again, in general) we do not work at our daily jobs, we don't cook, we don't do normal housework/yardwork, we don't handle money or do business (i.e., shop, eat out at a restuarant, etc.); those who are able to not use a car, don't.

Do we lose our salvation if we decide to go to Disney World on Shabbes? No, we don't, nor do we receive salvation for not going. It's a heart thing - what are our motives for keeping or not keeping Hashem's Shabbat. That's the whole thing about observing Torah - what are each person's motives?

What is required? A pure heart.

I know I didn't address all of your questions, but hopefully this will help somewhat.

 

[CGL1023]

We see Gods Commandments, all good for our guide and benefit,

if we broke a commandment , say we committed adultery or stole

this would be sin,

so if we do not keep the Sabbath holy, Sabbath being a Saturday

are we breaking Gods commandment?,and is it counted in the same way as a sin ?

There are a lot of scriptures that indicate that as Christians, we are out from under the of the law; that if we go back under the law, we have to keep the entire law (613 or 619 separate provisions); that the law is not of faith. Google to see the list of verses for your self.