Are Australians really that ignorant?

[Anduril]

They must be to vote in a Labor government. Hard to believe. With union hacks now running the country Australia is going down the gurgler. All that hard work over the last 10 years to pay off Labor's huge debt, to get interest rates low again, and get the economy in great shape will all be undone. Might be time to leave the country.

John Howard should have retired while on top as there are a lot of dopey people who would have voted against him just for being there so long. He may even lose his seat to some journo from the ABC. This is perhaps the greatest prime minister we've had.

You have to wonder about some people.

 

[Zaphod_Beeblebrox]

Gee you're funny!

The highest interest rates ever in Australia were on April 8, 1982 under the Coalition with John Howard as Treasurer.

I really wish some of you dyed in the wool Liberal supporters could take your blinkers off occasionally!

 

[tigercub]

Union hacks? As opposed to lawyer hacks? Lol...

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Maybe if he'd dumped workchoices, pulled out of Iraq and spent some of the surplus on education and health he'd still be here.

 

[danstar]

yes people in australia are ignorant the last 4 times labor has been in australia has suffered some of its worst times, i am very disappointed in whats happened today, obviously 20 million australias have very very short memories

 

[GodsoldierClintus]

If you knew what you were actually talking about I might actually give you a proper response.

 

[Anduril]

Maybe if he'd dumped workchoices, pulled out of Iraq and spent some of the surplus on education and health he'd still be here.

I doubt most Australians were even aware of those issues. From what I've heard they were more concerned with how long he has been there. But I'll agree now maybe he should have pumped some more money into education.

 

[GodsoldierClintus]

O yeh and one more thing....

"WE'RE BACK!"

 

[simpletrust]

O yeh and one more thing....

"WE'RE BACK!"

MWAHAHAHA

 

[Zaphod_Beeblebrox]

I doubt most Australians were even aware of those issues. From what I've heard they were more concerned with how long he has been there. But I'll agree now maybe he should have pumped some more money into education.

I think WorkChoices was definitely an issue. I was handing out HTV cards for the Democrats (RIP) yesterday and I heard a lot of people say (mostly to the Labor workers) that they were voting against WorkChoices.

Another interesting thing I found, that was quite a lot of friendly banter between the campaign workers of all parties (we had Liberal, Labor, Greens, Democrats, Socialist Alliance), EXCEPT the one Family First person. She pretty much refused to talk to anyone for most of the day. Then toward the end she did start talking and admitted she knew nothing about politics and was only doing it because a friend asked her to. I find it a little sad the FF can't even find supporters of their party to hand out HTVs on Election Day.

 

[Zaphod_Beeblebrox]

yes people in australia are ignorant the last 4 times labor has been in australia has suffered some of its worst times, i am very disappointed in whats happened today, obviously 20 million australias have very very short memories

And you being 22 years old have very little clue what happened the last four times Labor was in power. At least I was an adult when they were last in Government, and yes, times were tough, but so were they in the rest of the world.

What you and many Liberal zealots fail to realise though is that the difficult times experienced under Labor led to the good economic times experienced during the Coalition Government. The Hawke/Keating Governments did a huge amount of economic restructuring such as labour market reforms including the introduction of enterprise bargaining.

Labor also reduced a variety of trade barriers/tarrifs, and privatised QANTAS and the Commonwealth Bank.

Whitlam, while he had his problems - many of which were created by the Coalition exploiting a loophole in the constitution, allowing the Bjelke-Petersen Government of Queensland to replace a retiring elected Labor Senator with one of his own choosing, thankfully a loophole which has now been closed following the 1977 Referendum on Senate Casual Vacancies.

However Gough did leave a few marks on the nation, most notably the Racial Discrimination Act, introduction of universal health care (Medibank, later Medicare), and free tertiary education, which allowed students from no from wealthy backgrounds to get a University education for the first time. Interestingly, many Liberal Party MPs got their education in this way, yet the speak out against the idea virulently today.

Methinks you are the ignorant one.

 

[norbie]

They must be to vote in a Labor government. Hard to believe. With union hacks now running the country Australia is going down the gurgler. All that hard work over the last 10 years to pay off Labor's huge debt, to get interest rates low again, and get the economy in great shape will all be undone. Might be time to leave the country.

John Howard should have retired while on top as there are a lot of dopey people who would have voted against him just for being there so long. He may even lose his seat to some journo from the ABC. This is perhaps the greatest prime minister we've had.

You have to wonder about some people.

And I bet you Howard is realy glad to loose this Election. Now Labour have to clean up his so called 'economic wonder', (mess) again. And there will be very hard time coming next year.
Some people think that just they can have everything, the Economic is good: now you will see my young friend - it will fall down like a house of cards: and the Liberals will blame Labour for it again. For THEIR stuff up. If Howard would have gone slowly and not above a 2.5% economic grow - it would have been good. But to look good he pushed the economic up, and now we will pay for it.
He destroyed the manufactoring business, he didn't look after the Farmer in finding a way to help them with water, he agreed to early to Busch in the Global Trading and Australia is the looser, and so on.
Also if he realy would care for the Australian People, instead of buying votes with the little Tasmanien Hospital - he could have put this 43 milliones in the Royal Northshore Hospital.
There was never a Prime Minister who took so less care for the own people. His love for the Australian People was to buy votes a half year before an election. Just think about it - and don't ever say the Australian People are ignorand. Try to get involved and study the country Politic a little more.

 

[KristyAnne]

I doubt most Australians were even aware of those issues. From what I've heard they were more concerned with how long he has been there. But I'll agree now maybe he should have pumped some more money into education.

Actually, I believe they were the primary issues, they were certainly a contributing factor to my decision to vote for Labor (apparent ignorant person that I am). I would never not vote for someone because they've held a position for too long; I am not a fan of change for the sake of change. If Howard had been doing a good job, I would have gladly voted him in again. But, IMHO, he wasn't; hopefully Rudd will be an improvement.

However, I'm not going to accuse Liberal supporters of being ignorant, simply because I don't agree with Liberal's policies; presumably there is something in those policies that appeal to you and other Liberal supporters, and that's fair enough.

 

[Forever trying]

They must be to vote in a Labor government. Hard to believe. With union hacks now running the country Australia is going down the gurgler. All that hard work over the last 10 years to pay off Labor's huge debt, to get interest rates low again, and get the economy in great shape will all be undone. Might be time to leave the country.

John Howard should have retired while on top as there are a lot of dopey people who would have voted against him just for being there so long. He may even lose his seat to some journo from the ABC. This is perhaps the greatest prime minister we've had.

You have to wonder about some people.

I'm with you. Enough said.

 

[Wormie]

Wow. Is it really necessary to flame someone with a different opinion to you? Yes, Rudd is now PM, and yes, I DID vote Labor - but not out of ignorance. I voted Labor because to me, HOWARD is the ignorant one. He made changes to WorkChoices that affected many hard-working families in a negative way. I was one of those people. I am not going to vote for someone who only cares for the big companies with all the monies who will scratch his back while he scratches theirs. I will not vote for a "self-serving" PM, or party. I believe it is time for a new government. DEMOCRACY means that you as an individual voter may not see your preferred person/party elected, but you don't have to insult other voters because of it. Not very democratic, and not very Australian, IMO.

 

[Justina]

I'm not really a politics person, but i just wanna say that i'll miss John Howard he's the only PM i remember, really! lol, It'll be so odd not seeing him all over the place anymore!

All the best for Kevin Rudd

 

[Monarchist]

Democracy. BAAAAAH

 

[norak]

They must be to vote in a Labor government. Hard to believe. With union hacks now running the country Australia is going down the gurgler. All that hard work over the last 10 years to pay off Labor's huge debt, to get interest rates low again, and get the economy in great shape will all be undone. Might be time to leave the country.

How proud of you to suggest Australians are ignorant. You should read this: http://www.compareshares.com.au/dobb14.php

Gee you're funny!

The highest interest rates ever in Australia were on April 8, 1982 under the Coalition with John Howard as Treasurer.

I really wish some of you dyed in the wool Liberal supporters could take your blinkers off occasionally!

Yeah, take the log out of your own eye before you criticize the speck in your brother's.

From what I've heard they were more concerned with how long he has been there.

There's a lot more. Howard is corrupt as they come. He uses tax-payers money and funnels it to the rich. He is also deceptive and fear-mongering.

 

[simpletrust]

Wow. Is it really necessary to flame someone with a different opinion to you? Yes, Rudd is now PM, and yes, I DID vote Labor - but not out of ignorance. I voted Labor because to me, HOWARD is the ignorant one. He made changes to WorkChoices that affected many hard-working families in a negative way. I was one of those people. I am not going to vote for someone who only cares for the big companies with all the monies who will scratch his back while he scratches theirs. I will not vote for a "self-serving" PM, or party. I believe it is time for a new government. DEMOCRACY means that you as an individual voter may not see your preferred person/party elected, but you don't have to insult other voters because of it. Not very democratic, and not very Australian, IMO.

Well said.

I'm not really a politics person, but i just wanna say that i'll miss John Howard he's the only PM i remember, really! lol, It'll be so odd not seeing him all over the place anymore!

All the best for Kevin Rudd

Yeah I felt a bit weird. I remember when Howard became prime minister. I must have been about 7. I didn't like his suit as much as the one Paul Keating was wearing, and I asked my mother and brother if the new prime minister would get the old prime minister's suits now he'd gotten his job.

 

[tigercub]

Well said.



Yeah I felt a bit weird. I remember when Howard became prime minister. I must have been about 7. I didn't like his suit as much as the one Paul Keating was wearing, and I asked my mother and brother if the new prime minister would get the old prime minister's suits now he'd gotten his job.

Well, Paul Keating is probably about the best dressed PM we've ever had. Rather ironic though that he was dressing in imported Italian suits while telling everyone else to buy Australian.