Arctic sea ice at record low for this time of year

[Tinker Grey]

Wow another New study, it must be true.

And when the ice does in fact go away, will you say it'll be back next year? Or the year after that? Or the year after that?

Sounds familiar.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Wow another New study, it must be true.

At last! On topic snark.

 

[johneb]

And when the ice does in fact go away, will you say it'll be back next year? Or the year after that? Or the year after that?

So what happens after a the great ice age? What happens after the little ice age?
The climate has warmed and cooled for thousands of years and now the politicians have figured out a way to profit from it.
Trust the science is the new slogan don't ya know.

 

[Shemjaza]

So what happens after a the great ice age? What happens after the little ice age?
The climate has warmed and cooled for thousands of years and now the politicians have figured out a way to profit from it.
Trust the science is the new slogan don't ya know.

Hotter then ever on record... and changing faster then any natural cycle we have evidence for.

 

[johneb]

Hotter then ever on record... and changing faster then any natural cycle we have evidence for.

Not where I live, it's been the same for forty five years. And looking back through the historical climate data nothing to worry about here. I guess all of this climate change is happening somewhere else?
It should be noted the mid 1930's it was smokin hot in the USA, we have not seen the likes of that for almost 90 years.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
I'm sure this will be blamed on CO2 as well?

 

[klutedavid]

Not where I live, it's been the same for forty five years. And looking back through the historical climate data nothing to worry about here. I guess all of this climate change is happening somewhere else?
It should be noted the mid 1930's it was smokin hot in the USA, we have not seen the likes of that for almost 90 years.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
I'm sure this will be blamed on CO2 as well?

Are you sure that the temperature in the 1930's was higher than now?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Trust the science is the new slogan don't ya know.

"Trust but verify" as the old saying has it. The advantage of science is that you can verify even if you are sceptical.

 

[Strathos]

Yeah, scientists are totally the ones obsessed with profit, as they're some of the richest people in the world, unlike those poor, destitute oil executives...

 

[essentialsaltes]

Not where I live, it's been the same for forty five years.

That's why we talk about climate and not johneb's backyard.

 

[johneb]

Are you sure that the temperature in the 1930's was higher than now?

See post #22

 

[Shemjaza]

See post #22

And where I live no one has an American accent... I guess that voice I hear on TV is just made up.

You personal interpretations from a localised place is a totally unreliable way of working out how the world is working. The global evidence is sound.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That is not good news, i.e., that Greenland ice sheet melt has passed the point of no return.

Sea ice as well.

A 44-square-mile chunk of ice, about twice the size of Manhattan, has broken off the Arctic's largest remaining ice shelf in northeast Greenland in the last two years, leaving scientists fearful over its rapid disintegration.

The territory's ice sheet is the second biggest in the world behind Antarctica's, and its annual melt contributes more than a millimeter rise to sea levels every year.

"We should be very concerned about what appears to be progressive disintegration at the Arctic's largest remaining ice shelf, because upstream ... is the only major Greenland ice sheet ice stream," said Jason Box from The Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland (GEUS) in a statement on Monday.

By the time you learn to pronounce "Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden glacier" it probably won't be there any more.

 

[durangodawood]

Sea ice as well.

A 44-square-mile chunk of ice, about twice the size of Manhattan, has broken off the Arctic's largest remaining ice shelf in northeast Greenland in the last two years, leaving scientists fearful over its rapid disintegration.

The territory's ice sheet is the second biggest in the world behind Antarctica's, and its annual melt contributes more than a millimeter rise to sea levels every year.

"We should be very concerned about what appears to be progressive disintegration at the Arctic's largest remaining ice shelf, because upstream ... is the only major Greenland ice sheet ice stream," said Jason Box from The Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland (GEUS) in a statement on Monday.

By the time you learn to pronounce "Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden glacier" it probably won't be there any more.

This makes Trump's plan to buy Greenland look even smarter.

 

[Nithavela]

This makes Trump's plan to buy Greenland look even smarter.

Definetely, soon it will be part of the ever-shrinking zone where human life and agriculture are possible. For a few decades, at least.

 

[BNR32FAN]

NASA link. Extent and area are minimum or tie the minimum measured on July 8.

Broader look:

The record-setting heat wave that swept through Arctic Siberia in June has yielded a wide-range of deleterious effects in the expansive polar and sub-polar region, triggering raging wildfires, thawing permafrost, and now, spurring the rapid melt-out of Arctic sea ice.

Last month, Siberian temperatures spiked, reaching a record average more than 5 degrees Celsius (9 degrees Fahrenheit) hotter than normal, according to recently released data from the European Union. The remote town of Verkhoyansk in northeast Siberia recorded a reading of more than 38 degrees Celsius (100 degrees Fahrenheit) on June 17, the highest temperature ever recorded north of the Arctic Circle.

Under this metaphorical blow torch, ice extent in the seas that border Siberia has plummeted in recent days, pushing the Arctic region as a whole into the record books. Between July 2 and July 7, sea ice extent across the Arctic Ocean went from being at its fifth lowest extent for this time of year since satellite record-keeping began in 1979, melting into first place, slightly below even the calamitous year of 2012 which eventually saw sea ice hit a record low at the end of the summer melt season in September.

It’s only a matter of time before someone finds a way to blame Trump for this.

 

[BNR32FAN]

neat chart!

Yeah I mostly liked the light blue & green colors myself.

 

[JackRT]

Definetely, soon it will be part of the ever-shrinking zone where human life and agriculture are possible. For a few decades, at least.

Ironically new land suitable for agriculture might actually be flooded by the sea level rise.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Ironically new land suitable for agriculture might actually be flooded by the sea level rise.

It's thought to be past the tipping point for the whole ice sheet to go - causing a 6 metre rise in sea level. The hope is that it will take long enough for us to move out of coastal areas and rebuild the major cities that will be drowned.

 

[durangodawood]

It’s only a matter of time before someone finds a way to blame Trump for this.

Has he lifted a finger to do anything about it?

Lucky for us us his idiotic "coal comeback" has mostly stalled for economic reasons.

 

[JackRT]

It's thought to be past the tipping point for the whole ice sheet to go - causing a 6 metre rise in sea level. The hope is that it will take long enough for us to move out of coastal areas and rebuild the major cities that will be drowned.

6m (20 ft) is Greenland alone. By itself that would be catastrophic but if the Antarctic goes too that's 60m (200 ft) and that would be well beyond catastrophic.