Ahmadinejad: Word forces must annihilate Israel

[JuJube]

israel is the apple of Gods eye we gentiles are only grafted in Israel is the true branch and one day their eyes will be opened be thankful gentile belivers for Israels blindness God has not forgotten His chosen people and they will have their time in the future
maggie

Here are the verses to back up redrose 42: Sorry rr42 if I stole your thunder !! God bless you sister !
Genesis 12:1-3

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The Call of Abram

12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.
2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.
Zechariah 2:8

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8 For this is what the Lord Almighty says: “After the Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have plundered you—for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye —

Romans 11:1-32

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The Remnant of Israel

11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
7 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, 8 as it is written:
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”[c]

9 And David says:
“May their table become a snare and a trap,
a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.”[d]

Ingrafted Branches

11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!
13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
All Israel Will Be Saved

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[g]

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Sorry about such a long post but it's all scripture !

God bless, Jujube

 

[Lovely Lane]

It's interesting to me that so many are willing to wave the "Christian Palestinian" issue in this discussion without giving equal consideration to the absolute fact that faithful Israel is indeed amidst secular Israel as surely as there are Palestinian Christians among the Gaza and West Bank terrorists. However, just as faithful Israel is crying out to the Lord, so are the Palestinian Christians completely silent regarding statehood. Why? Because they know that faithful Israel will arise out of the secular nation, just as the remnant always has. How does that escape your attention?

How does this Israel CRY OUT to the Lord? This isn't days of OT, Christ came and made it real simple, easy, for one to follow Him. Even the Zionist can figure that one out.

Silent? Palestinian Authority has been working with the UN for some time to be a legitimate State. Israel on the other hand has been moving forward in settlement activities. Is that how Zionist CRY OUT to the Lord, use of a bulldozer?

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[LantanaAnna]

right , Lovely, I would just use a bomb, clear it at once.

 

[IisJustMe]

How does this Israel CRY OUT to the Lord?

Just because your media doesn't cover them unless Empty Suit ... oh, wait, he's never been to Israel as president ... or Romney visit there doesn't mean they aren't crying out to the Lord. What do you suppose is going on at the Wailing Wall virtually 24/7/365? Those prayers aren't meaningless chants, I assure you.

 

[Lovely Lane]

right , Lovely, I would just use a bomb, clear it at once.

Use a bomb for what?

 

[Lovely Lane]

Just because your media doesn't cover them unless Empty Suit ... oh, wait, he's never been to Israel as president ... or Romney visit there doesn't mean they aren't crying out to the Lord. What do you suppose is going on at the Wailing Wall virtually 24/7/365? Those prayers aren't meaningless chants, I assure you.

Yes, they are. For if they haven't Christ in their life, they are meaningless chants, I assure you. Same goes for all those prayers that the Muslim offers up each day, meaningless chants.

You must be one of those folks who believe that the Jew is going to heaven too, just because they are Jews, and they do a lot of crying.

 

[usexpat97]

A key moving part in the Israeli lobby machine is that they fly congressmen and give them a royal "holy land" tour. Their investment, in turn, gets multiplied many times over in the form of Congress repeatedly approving $6 billion a year in military aid--which that, in turn, gets pumped back into the AIPAC lobby to drive the U.S. to do Israel's bidding all the more.

All that to say: if the President has never been to Israel, I can't fault him for that. Good.

 

[Lovely Lane]

President Obama not visiting Israel is a good thing.

Last time he was there they stole his prayer note and put the contents in the press.

 

[LLWHA]

yeah, serious. Hitler actually committed atrocities against mankind, Ahmadinejad has just run his mouth, for years, this is nothing new.

So, show me the comparison of these two. Or was the Hitler comparison only used for the inflammatory effect. Which usually works when Hitler is used as a comparison.

Most these so called evil quotes were not translated correctly. Just more lies and fraud out on the Main stream media. Yes these so called jews do own the media.

 

[LLWHA]

Here are the verses to back up redrose 42: Sorry rr42 if I stole your thunder !! God bless you sister !
Genesis 12:1-3

New International Version (NIV)

The Call of Abram

12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.
2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
God bless, Jujube

The people called jews never had a great nation in the history of this earth. They had a little kingdom at best. Even when you put the mixed up mess of the sons of Esau into the mix there is not one great nation. Most people calling themselves jews today are the mixed up mess of the sons Easu, they are not Hebrews never were Hebrews.

Genesis
28:14 And thy seed shall be as "the dust of the earth", and thou shalt spread abroad to the West, and to the East, and to the North, and to the South: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.


The Jews are a small group and have never been as "the dust of the earth" The earth has not been blessed by these people that call themselves Jews. They have been kicked out of more counties and places on earth than any other group because of their crimes. They are one of if not the most hated people on this earth.

Genesis
48:14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid [it] upon Ephraim's head, who [was] the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh [was] the firstborn.
48:15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before Whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God Which fed me all my life long unto this day,
48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name [Israel] be named on them (let Ephraim and Manasseh be called Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
48:17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
48:18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [is] the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.
48:20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee [Joseph] shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.

The name Israel was given to two brothers and they were not Jews or from Judah. Their seed did have two great nations and one had and still does have a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.

The House of Israel (Ephraim) had a Great nation and a multitude of nations. The House of Israel had Two Great nations just like the Bible states. Both are going down hill very fast as they have tossed God and His message out of them for the most part or the demon-crazy governments have tossed out God for the most part.

They, God's chosen people and nations Ephraim and Manasseh have turned to the dark side and satan's children rule both and the commonwealth or multitude of nations that are true Israel :-(

 

[LLWHA]

israel is the apple of Gods eye we gentiles are only grafted in Israel is the true branch and one day their eyes will be opened be thankful gentile belivers for Israels blindness God has not forgotten His chosen people and they will have their time in the future
maggie

You live in one of the Commonwealth of nations that is Israel. Unless you are not from that land you are one of Gods chosen people and live in one of His nations.
You are Gods Chosen.

22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as "the stars of the heaven", and as the sand which [is] upon the sea shore; and thy descendants shall possess the (sea) gates of their enemies;
28:14 And thy seed shall be as "the dust of the earth", and thou shalt spread abroad to the West, and to the East, and to the North, and to the South: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

 

[redrose42]

God will indeed protect Isreal from all its enemies those that touch Israel touch God

maggie

 

[woodpecker]

-we as children of God should never support the annihilation of a nation. NEVER

-The people of Israel are only blessed if they are covered in the blood of Jesus, and their names written in the Book Of Life.

-There is a remnant of Israel that will be saved.

-All those written of in the Old Testament who had faith in God, and hope in the Messiah to come is the TRUE ISRAEL. All those who except Jesus as their Lord and Savior are grated into the tree of Abraham, Israel.

-There are not two chosen people of God. Just one, all people who are saved by Jesus.

-Now, in Revelation Jesus makes reference to the last battle. A battle where the nations of the world surround God's chosen people, and "the city He loves".

So if in the future there is a time where this takes place...
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4 Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them received authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for testifying about Yeshua and proclaiming the Word of God, also those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received the mark on their foreheads and on their hands. They came to life and ruled with the Messiah for a thousand years.
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where is this place, and what city is Jesus refereeing to? Obviously it is Jerusalem. So the last battle takes place around Jerusalem.
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7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and [the city he loves]. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10 The Adversary who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Rev. 20
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all this to say, Jerusalem is still in the picture, and when all the battles are won, and Satan and evil are thrown into the lake of fire, we will witness the 2nd resurrection, and we will see the NEW JERUSALEM coming down.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Scripture tells of a great city called Babylon. And Babylon has a king which the nations of the promised land must serve for the space of 70 years.No country shal be able to overthrow that goverment till after the 70 years have been completed.
After the 70 the the king of the Medes with many nations with him shall serve themselves of the king of Babylon .

King of Babylon 1948-2018

Do you know who the king of the Medes is?
Do you know what Babylon the great is?

Jerimiah 51;11
Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

Revelation 16;19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath

 

[shilohsfoal]

-we as children of God should never support the annihilation of a nation. NEVER

-The people of Israel are only blessed if they are covered in the blood of Jesus, and their names written in the Book Of Life.

-There is a remnant of Israel that will be saved.

-All those written of in the Old Testament who had faith in God, and hope in the Messiah to come is the TRUE ISRAEL. All those who except Jesus as their Lord and Savior are grated into the tree of Abraham, Israel.

-There are not two chosen people of God. Just one, all people who are saved by Jesus.

-Now, in Revelation Jesus makes reference to the last battle. A battle where the nations of the world surround God's chosen people, and "the city He loves".

So if in the future there is a time where this takes place...
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4 Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them received authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for testifying about Yeshua and proclaiming the Word of God, also those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received the mark on their foreheads and on their hands. They came to life and ruled with the Messiah for a thousand years.
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where is this place, and what city is Jesus refereeing to? Obviously it is Jerusalem. So the last battle takes place around Jerusalem.
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7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and [the city he loves]. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10 The Adversary who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Rev. 20
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all this to say, Jerusalem is still in the picture, and when all the battles are won, and Satan and evil are thrown into the lake of fire, we will witness the 2nd resurrection, and we will see the NEW JERUSALEM coming down.

Gog Magog is not a battle.
Gog invade the land of Israel but no human attempts to stop him nor is any weapon of man raised against him.

But before that invasion.1000 Years before is a war often called Armegeddon.And that place is in Israel.That is when the children of the kingdom are cast out into outer darkness and the saints inherit the promised land.

 

[Simonline]

Jerusalem Post

In a speech published on his website Thursday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the ultimate goal of world forces must be the annihilation of Israel.

Speaking to ambassadors from Islamic countries ahead of 'Qods Day' ('Jerusalem Day'), an annual Iranian anti-Zionist event established in 1979 by Ayatollah Khomeini and which falls this year on August 17, Ahmadinejad said that a "horrible Zionist current" had been managing world affairs for "about 400 years."

Repeating traditional anti-Semitic slurs, the Iranian president accused "Zionists" of controlling the world's media and financial systems.
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Sounds more and more like Hitler every day.

Actually, by comparison, the Al Mahdi/Anti-Christ will make Adolf Hitler pale into insignificance. Compared with the Time of Jacob's Trouble / the Great Tribulation, the Holocaust with be a half-hearted practise run. Hitler was a brazen megalomaniac but he was nothing compared to these modern day Islamo-fascists?!

Simonline.

 

[Simonline]

really, Hitler?

Except for the annihilation part, I at first read, agree with Ahmadinejad concerning Zionist. Don't you?

Then you'd better take it up with Jesus of Nazareth the arch-Zionist Himself and see what He has to say about it?!

Many politically naive and Biblically/theologically ignorant Christians don't realize that it is their own God Who is the arch-Zionist and the arch-anti-Zionist is Lucifer himself?! The antichristic spirit of the age is rampant within the Church and many Christians are being deluded and swept along by it.

Simonline

 

[ebedmelech]

There are many Christians who simply believe what they have been taught without giving thought to it.

We have Christians believing God is herding jews v=back to Israel to be slaughtered by some anti Christ when it's really foreign to the scriptures.

When you really understand that Israel is the Church and NOT a nationality of people in the country you might start to understand.

Is God in favor of the Jews oppressing Palestinian people and taking their land by force? I THINK NOT!!!

When Jesus said: “ Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling, Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘ Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

That meant that Israel was done as God's people under the Old Covenant.

THERE IS NEITHER JEW, NOR GENTILE, MALE NOR FEMALE, BOND NOR FREE.

WE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS!!!

How hard is that to understand?

 

[woodpecker]

There are many Christians who simply believe what they have been taught without giving thought to it.

We have Christians believing God is herding jews v=back to Israel to be slaughtered by some anti Christ when it's really foreign to the scriptures.

When you really understand that Israel is the Church and NOT a nationality of people in the country you might start to understand.

Is God in favor of the Jews oppressing Palestinian people and taking their land by force? I THINK NOT!!!

When Jesus said: “ Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling, Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘ Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

That meant that Israel was done as God's people under the Old Covenant.

THERE IS NEITHER JEW, NOR GENTILE, MALE NOR FEMALE, BOND NOR FREE.

WE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS!!!

How hard is that to understand?

 

[dollarsbill]

There are many Christians who simply believe what they have been taught without giving thought to it.

And vice versa. National Israel has risen from the dead. We have been warned.