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<blockquote data-quote="hedrick" data-source="post: 61138108" data-attributes="member: 239032"><p>1) You're really asking about common Christian legends, not anything in the Bible, or anything that's particularly important to Christian theology. The Bible doesn't say much about angels. But it looks like they are spiritual, i.e. not limited to a body, and that (unlike humans) that are capable of not sinning. But they still have free will, and can decide to sin. I'm not sure whether that makes them perfect or not. I suppose the ones who haven't sinned are perfect in some sense.</p><p></p><p>2) I'm going to give you an answer that I think agrees with the Bible, but not necessarily most Christians. I think God was perfectly able to forgive people. The point of Jesus is that in union with him we die to our old lives of sin and receive new life through the power of his resurrection. That is, without Jesus, God would have been able to forgive people, but Jesus was needed to regenerate them. God isn't satisfied just ignoring our sin. He wants to deal with it.</p><p></p><p>I don't think we can say that Jesus is the only possible way God could have given us new life. It's just the way he chose to do it.</p><p></p><p>3) The term "son" is metaphorical. Many Muslims misunderstand what it means. Jesus is simply God's way of participating in human life as a human. So when we worship Christ, we're worshipping the one God, because it's that God who became human in Christ. In effect Jesus is God's human form.</p><p></p><p>4) When God joined us in human life, he did so through a full human existence. That's Jesus. So Jesus is God's human form.</p><p></p><p>I think calling him "divine" is dangerous. Divine is an adjective. Using it implies that conceivably there could be more than one thing that's divine. But that's wrong. There's only one God. So I prefer to say that Jesus was a human being who was used by God as God's own presence in human life. Thus he was both a human being and God.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hedrick, post: 61138108, member: 239032"] 1) You're really asking about common Christian legends, not anything in the Bible, or anything that's particularly important to Christian theology. The Bible doesn't say much about angels. But it looks like they are spiritual, i.e. not limited to a body, and that (unlike humans) that are capable of not sinning. But they still have free will, and can decide to sin. I'm not sure whether that makes them perfect or not. I suppose the ones who haven't sinned are perfect in some sense. 2) I'm going to give you an answer that I think agrees with the Bible, but not necessarily most Christians. I think God was perfectly able to forgive people. The point of Jesus is that in union with him we die to our old lives of sin and receive new life through the power of his resurrection. That is, without Jesus, God would have been able to forgive people, but Jesus was needed to regenerate them. God isn't satisfied just ignoring our sin. He wants to deal with it. I don't think we can say that Jesus is the only possible way God could have given us new life. It's just the way he chose to do it. 3) The term "son" is metaphorical. Many Muslims misunderstand what it means. Jesus is simply God's way of participating in human life as a human. So when we worship Christ, we're worshipping the one God, because it's that God who became human in Christ. In effect Jesus is God's human form. 4) When God joined us in human life, he did so through a full human existence. That's Jesus. So Jesus is God's human form. I think calling him "divine" is dangerous. Divine is an adjective. Using it implies that conceivably there could be more than one thing that's divine. But that's wrong. There's only one God. So I prefer to say that Jesus was a human being who was used by God as God's own presence in human life. Thus he was both a human being and God. [/QUOTE]
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