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<blockquote data-quote="food4thought" data-source="post: 61131702" data-attributes="member: 3467"><p>May God bless you for your <u>honest</u> seeking.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Although I disagree with the Qur'an, I think you presented the information in an engaging and well produced format. A very good job.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>May God bless you for that aspiration, and help you to understand what the truth is regarding these things.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Some of your questions just cannot be fully answered in a "short and sweet" format without distorting the truth into something you hope to avoid as you said above... I will do my best to keep my answers on point and concise, but cannot promise a short response.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I know of no place in the Bible that says the angels were created or are perfect. As others have stated, God created the angels as beings with the capacity to choose, thus they were created with the capacity to choose that which is against God's will... some of the angels chose God, some chose to follow Satan.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is a somewhat complex question... Do you believe that God is perfectly just and perfectly righteous? If so, then these qualities DEMAND that God judge sin righteously and justly. In order for justice and righteousness to be served, sin (missing the mark of perfection) must be punished. The penalty for sin is physical death and spiritual death (seperation from God). No other penalty would satisfy perfect justice and righteousness because the end result of sin, which at heart is going against the will of God, is potential death and potential broken relationship. Because God is omniscient, knowing all things possible and actual, only He can chart a path for man, who is finite in knowledge, that does not lead to eventual death and/or broken relationship. Therefore following the will of God is the only sure path to life and right relationship to others, and all turning from God's guidance is sin. Think about that for a bit...</p><p> </p><p>What basis does Allah have for forgiving sin if He is perfectly righteous and perfectly just? Allah is mercifull, but on what basis does he show mercy to sinners if he is to remain righteous and just? Is Allah mercifull to sinners without justification and therefore not righteous and just; or is Allah righteous and just but not mercifull. He cannot be both without judging sin righteously and justly while at the same time showing mercy to sinners.</p><p> </p><p>The Bible gives us the answer: substitutionary atonement. God in His love and mercy sent Jesus, who was without sin and perfectly followed God all His days, and therefore was able to righteously and justly take upon Himself the sins of all mankind and thus satisfied God's righteous and just judgement of sin while showing mercy and love to us... without that sacrifice, we are all lost and condemned by God's righteous justice.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>3) I worship one God, eternally expressed in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three are distinct in person but one in Being. All through God's creation we are given examples of plural unity... light is light, but it is expressed to us in three divisions: infrared, visible, and ultraviolet. Most animals and plants are unified beings that are composed of millions of cells. An egg is one thing, yet composed of many cells, and also three parts: shell, white, yoke. Man is a triune being; composed of body, soul, and spirit. I could go on and on, but I hope you understand.</p><p> </p><p>4) Jesus is God in His Divine nature, but He humbled Himself to become a finite man... when He was born, something wonderful happened, the eternal Divine Son of God became the Son of Man. This is a great mystery, but a truth so wonderfull and powerfull as to make me praise God for His greatness. The Son of God never <u>became</u> the Son of God, He was eternally in triune relationship/Being as God with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus became the Son of Man when He was miraculously conceived within the womb of the virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit... no sexuality was involved contrary to the concept Muslims have of the Miraculous Conception... God, by the Holy Spirit, simply miraculously fertilized an egg in Mary's womb... no sperm, no sexuality, "just" a miracle.</p><p> </p><p>Hope these answers helped you understand.</p><p> </p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="food4thought, post: 61131702, member: 3467"] May God bless you for your [U]honest[/U] seeking. Although I disagree with the Qur'an, I think you presented the information in an engaging and well produced format. A very good job. [COLOR=blue][/COLOR] May God bless you for that aspiration, and help you to understand what the truth is regarding these things. Some of your questions just cannot be fully answered in a "short and sweet" format without distorting the truth into something you hope to avoid as you said above... I will do my best to keep my answers on point and concise, but cannot promise a short response. [CENTER][/CENTER] I know of no place in the Bible that says the angels were created or are perfect. As others have stated, God created the angels as beings with the capacity to choose, thus they were created with the capacity to choose that which is against God's will... some of the angels chose God, some chose to follow Satan. This is a somewhat complex question... Do you believe that God is perfectly just and perfectly righteous? If so, then these qualities DEMAND that God judge sin righteously and justly. In order for justice and righteousness to be served, sin (missing the mark of perfection) must be punished. The penalty for sin is physical death and spiritual death (seperation from God). No other penalty would satisfy perfect justice and righteousness because the end result of sin, which at heart is going against the will of God, is potential death and potential broken relationship. Because God is omniscient, knowing all things possible and actual, only He can chart a path for man, who is finite in knowledge, that does not lead to eventual death and/or broken relationship. Therefore following the will of God is the only sure path to life and right relationship to others, and all turning from God's guidance is sin. Think about that for a bit... What basis does Allah have for forgiving sin if He is perfectly righteous and perfectly just? Allah is mercifull, but on what basis does he show mercy to sinners if he is to remain righteous and just? Is Allah mercifull to sinners without justification and therefore not righteous and just; or is Allah righteous and just but not mercifull. He cannot be both without judging sin righteously and justly while at the same time showing mercy to sinners. The Bible gives us the answer: substitutionary atonement. God in His love and mercy sent Jesus, who was without sin and perfectly followed God all His days, and therefore was able to righteously and justly take upon Himself the sins of all mankind and thus satisfied God's righteous and just judgement of sin while showing mercy and love to us... without that sacrifice, we are all lost and condemned by God's righteous justice. 3) I worship one God, eternally expressed in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three are distinct in person but one in Being. All through God's creation we are given examples of plural unity... light is light, but it is expressed to us in three divisions: infrared, visible, and ultraviolet. Most animals and plants are unified beings that are composed of millions of cells. An egg is one thing, yet composed of many cells, and also three parts: shell, white, yoke. Man is a triune being; composed of body, soul, and spirit. I could go on and on, but I hope you understand. 4) Jesus is God in His Divine nature, but He humbled Himself to become a finite man... when He was born, something wonderful happened, the eternal Divine Son of God became the Son of Man. This is a great mystery, but a truth so wonderfull and powerfull as to make me praise God for His greatness. The Son of God never [U]became[/U] the Son of God, He was eternally in triune relationship/Being as God with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus became the Son of Man when He was miraculously conceived within the womb of the virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit... no sexuality was involved contrary to the concept Muslims have of the Miraculous Conception... God, by the Holy Spirit, simply miraculously fertilized an egg in Mary's womb... no sperm, no sexuality, "just" a miracle. Hope these answers helped you understand. Mike [/QUOTE]
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