8 Reported Injured After Shooter Alert at Ohio State University

[seashale76]

Predicition: if the attacker is white, it will be called a lone wolf. If the attacker is from another ethnic group and or non-Christian religion, it will be an indictment on an entire group of people, whichever they fall into.

Cue those who will try to make it about their pet topic of race or anything other than the true topic...

 

[PreachersWife2004]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oh...possible-terrorism/ar-AAkRkmu?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid

The attacker drove their vehicle into a group of people, then got out and started stabbing the people they hit.

Fortunately for the crowd, a police officer was already nearby investigating a suspected gas leak. When the officer was alerted, they ran over and shot the attacker dead.

This is leading me to wonder if none of the other people at the facility tried to stop the attacker before the police officer arrived.

I like the NRA's response to the attack:

 

[SummerMadness]

Um, McVeigh's hate was of the GOVERNMENT. And there were plenty of people who equated his beliefs with numerous militias around the country.

He wanted to start a race war based on his beliefs in white supremacy, he didn't commit an act of terrorism based on his belief in militias.

Yes, it IS a problem with the Muslims, although I don't think you were really trying to say that.

The problem is not "the Muslims."

Nah, I think he's being a bit sardonic there. He'd like to see the MAN condemned rather than the group. At least in certain cases.

Are we not supposed to blame the individual that commits the crime? (Rhetorical)

I like the NRA's response to the attack:

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Imagine the number of victims if he was armed with a gun. NRA is quite foolish.

 

[SummerMadness]

I would not consider inaccurately referring to this as a shooting as opposed to a knife attack as fake news. An attack did happen, there was gunfire, it just wasn't a mass shooting. Now reporting that "CNN broadcast hardcore pornography for 30 minutes" and the adjusting the story to say "CNN denies broadcasting hardcore pornography for 30 minutes" is quite different. Those attempting to turn this into a gun issue (pro and con side), this is the wrong story to jump on.

 

[High Fidelity]

Nah, I think he's being a bit sardonic there. He'd like to see the MAN condemned rather than the group. At least in certain cases.

Ahh then I must have read it wrong. If that's the case, I agree.

 

[SummerMadness]

Ahh then I must have read it wrong. If that's the case, I agree.

If we can argue that Eric Rudolph doesn't represent Christianity, surely we can say the same of this man and Islam, even if he did it in the name of ISIL, they are no more Muslim than Army of God is Christian.

 

[TerranceL]

He wanted to start a race war based on his beliefs in white supremacy, he didn't commit an act of terrorism based on his belief in militias.

Odd that I can't find any evidence of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Motivations_for_the_bombing

 

[redleghunter]

He was somalian and he didn't like the way Muslims were being treated worldwide.

I bet it's just a coincidence that ISIS called for knife attacks earlier.

You mean it was not another mad Irishman?

 

[redleghunter]

He wanted to start a race war based on his beliefs in white supremacy, he didn't commit an act of terrorism based on his belief in militias.

Well he picked the wrong target to start a race war. He targeted a US federal building with an FBI field office.

 

[redleghunter]

If we can argue that Eric Rudolph doesn't represent Christianity, surely we can say the same of this man and Islam, even if he did it in the name of ISIL, they are no more Muslim than Army of God is Christian.

That seems to be the apologetic.

When a bishop or pastor gets on line asking their faithful to conduct crash and stab attacks give me a ping.

 

[SummerMadness]

Well he picked the wrong target to start a race war. He targeted a US federal building with an FBI field office.

Simply playing out a fantasy from the The Turner Diaries.

That seems to be the apologetic.

When a bishop or pastor gets on line asking their faithful to conduct crash and stab attacks give me a ping.

Was he directed by a mosque to do anything? Even if he was influenced by ISIL, what's the difference between ISIL and Army of God, they seem the same to me, they're both extremist groups that use religion to get their followers to commit heinous acts. Nonetheless, what evidence is there that he was carrying out a religious attack? And for that matter, why should this attack be looked at different than the terrorist attacks by Eric Rudolph?

 

[redleghunter]

Seems Abdul Razak Ali Artan was following instructions.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...ndom-knife-attacks-in-alleys-forests-beaches/

Exactly what ISIS was looking for:

Abdul Razak Ali Artan, 18, wrote on what appears to be his Facebook page that he had reached a "boiling point," made a reference to "lone wolf attacks" and cited radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

"America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially Muslim Ummah [community]. We are not weak. We are not weak, remember that," the post said.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...hio-state-university-car-knife-attack-n689076

And he said the following :

"If people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don't know what they're going to think, what's going to happen," Artan was quoted as saying in the Lantern.

Well he could be rest assured no one would plow their car into him and stab him for praying.

I think post modern university life combined with radical Islam is a recipe for paranoia and violence.

 

[redleghunter]

Simply playing out a fantasy from the The Turner Diaries.

Was he directed by a mosque to do anything? Even if he was influenced by ISIL, what's the difference between ISIL and Army of God, they seem the same to me, they're both extremist groups that use religion to get their followers to commit heinous acts. Nonetheless, what evidence is there that he was carrying out a religious attack? And for that matter, why should this attack be looked at different than the terrorist attacks by Eric Rudolph?

Are you seriously comparing AOG with ISIL? What region of the US is AOG hanging, burning and raping people daily? When. Was the last AOG beheading?

Really? You have to pick an obscure domestic terrorist group which has contributed fewer murders in 25 years compared to three years in Chicago gang deaths.

 

[SummerMadness]

Seems Abdul Razak Ali Artan was following instructions.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...ndom-knife-attacks-in-alleys-forests-beaches/

Exactly what ISIS was looking for:

Abdul Razak Ali Artan, 18, wrote on what appears to be his Facebook page that he had reached a "boiling point," made a reference to "lone wolf attacks" and cited radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

"America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially Muslim Ummah [community]. We are not weak. We are not weak, remember that," the post said.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...hio-state-university-car-knife-attack-n689076

And he said the following :

"If people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don't know what they're going to think, what's going to happen," Artan was quoted as saying in the Lantern.

Well he could be rest assured no one would plow their car into him and stab him for praying.

I think post modern university life combined with radical Islam is a recipe for paranoia and violence.

The issue, as usual, is extremism, whether it's Islamic or Christian, the problem is extremism.

 

[SummerMadness]

Are you seriously comparing AOG with ISIL? What region of the US is AOG hanging, burning and raping people daily? When. Was the last AOG beheading?

Really? You have to pick an obscure domestic terrorist group which has contributed fewer murders in 25 years compared to three years in Chicago gang deaths.

You still have not said what the difference between the two. Just because one group is more powerful than the other does not take away the fact that it is a fringe extremist group that uses religion to make people commit heinous acts.

 

[redleghunter]

The issue, as usual, is extremism, whether it's Islamic or Christian, the problem is extremism.

You can't compare the two. It's illogical.

No comparison.

 

[seashale76]

The problem is not "the Muslims."

You're right. The problem is Islam itself. There are a lot of bad Muslims that aren't following their religion out there- to their credit.

 

[TerranceL]

Simply playing out a fantasy from the The Turner Diaries.

Yeah because nobody ever thought up bombing a federal building until the mid 90's.

When the Weather Underground bombed the Pentagon in the 70's that was totes also based on the Turner Diaries.

 

[TerranceL]

You can't compare the two. It's illogical.

No comparison.

It's the same silliness we see when people like to compare groups like Westboro Baptist and the Taliban. One actually kills people and has power and uses that power on those it can. The other is irrelevant.

 

[SummerMadness]

Yeah because nobody ever thought up bombing a federal building until the mid 90's.

When the Weather Underground bombed the Pentagon in the 70's that was totes also based on the Turner Diaries.

Yeah, it's not like McVeigh was connected to white supremacist militias and carried around the Turner Diaries. Weather Underground was no longer active when the Turner Diaries were released...