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Err... Wow. But let's not get into infant baptism here. EDIT: On second thought, this is a reconciliation thread but let's wait for that topic until we're done with the others.

Summa: Those do seem like completely different statements. What does "won the day" mean, if not that it's predominant? (Predominant is not the same as commonplace.)

Albion: I bet it doesn't sound goofy to Germans. But I'm glad they used that name because this dunkard likes the resulting pun/tongue-twister.

Do Dunkards dink to get dunk?

Rhamiel: According to dispensationalism, Israel will exist before the tribulation, which will come before Christ's millennial kingdom. So until then it doesn't matter how Israel is governed. I hold this doctrine but not very firmly (i.e. I'm open to others if they make sense), although I don't...

And I would make the collective body as small as possible. Also, is there any evidence that the verse applied for councils is relevant to theological issues? I think just one reversal of a decision or admission of dishonesty would mean God is different today than He was yesterday.

The "sick" part wasn't an analogy, although I do use those a lot. If you're looking for assurance of forgiveness, apparently you think you might not have gotten it in the first place. But I confused assurance of forgiveness/salvation with that of repentance. But I suppose if you're not saved...

...This happens to be a thread about Israel. We don't need to discuss Muslim countries because we all agree about them. If antisemitism means that I don't think the Jewish people or the state of Israel is infallible, I'll take the label. EDIT: And E.C., does your opinion differ from what we...

The anti-democratic methods used for gay rights bring up a fundamental issue that I'm undecided on... Do we elect people into office who are supposed to follow their conscience as presented on the campaign trail, or should our opinion trump theirs? The first position is a defense against...

Raising voice =/= screaming. Beck's voice got shrill, something completely unexpected from a figurehead IMO. Raising your voice is justified in special cases, but those cases are very special. In fact, this is the only time I've seen anyone of any repute act this way. Re Barry Goldwater...

I am not arguing for replacement theology; when I presented E.C.'s position I made sure to label it as such. My argument is only that Israel no longer practices the Mosaic Law upon which you claim to base your policy toward Israel. And I still doubt that the Law directly supports the religious...

So if you haven't received forgiveness (i.e. repented), would you expect to come down sick? So if you don't get sick and nothing else bad happens, you truly repented? Or how else would it reassure? This is semi-biblical because Paul observed that such things did result, but I don't think it's...

Criada: Don't forget in darkness what you learned in the light. I've been in similar situations, but not as low or dark as you seem to be now. Just make sure to confide in someone who will keep you accountable. Relevant verses: John 6:37; John 10:28-29; Romans 8:38-39

So should issues not addressed in Scripture be resolved by tradition or leaders, or left open to individuals? I would think the latter, or by democracy if the decision affects a collective body.

You emphasized MM's less aggressive action for family-friendly media. Convincing networks that it has high demand is not censorship, but anything beyond that such as a law or manipulation of public opinion (astroturf) I would call censorship. Maintaining the "marriage" label and therefore...

Albion: That seems to not be a compromise, just Baptist doctrine... EDIT: Well, I suppose that depends on just how communion reassures of salvation.

Eh, I'm hoping you got some words mixed up there. But anyway, I have studied thank you very much. The only violence that I know to be endorsed is for disobeying the Law. That's the stoning part that Israel doesn't observe anymore anyway. Heck, they don't even sacrifice anymore. Israel...

EDIT: Hmm, both points I addressed disappeared while I was typing.

Let's not bring the petty finger-pointing of politics into this... boswd brought a different perspective on the situation. You might argue that he did it abrasively, but even if so we don't need to fight over it. I second the thing about Catholic and Orthodox Christians. I was thinking about...

If you believe I haven't studied Scripture simply because we disagree, then I agree that we have nothing to discuss.