We aren't Jews obligated to the covenant made at Mt Sinai. BTW neither are Jewish Christians per Rom 7:6.
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The book of Acts proves that early Christians regularly attended synagogues
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No it doesn't. Jesus did not say anything about the 10 Cs. Jesus referred o Deut 6:4 and something from Lev ( I think, didn't take time to look it up) though.
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Its your servant. As such you are forbidden to use it on the Sabbath. You are forbidden to have some one operate the generators. You are forbidden to accept delivery of goods and services on the Sabbath. You are forbidden to use the AC on the Sabbath. You are forbidden to use the fridge on the Sabbath. You are forbidden to use the stove or microwave on the Sabbath. You are forbidden to use metered water on the sabbath.
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Yes there is. Your claim is it was not Sunday. You are including all of our Saturday as the Sabbath. That is incorrect. You do this to prove it wasn't the first day when the Scripture testifies against you.The first day of the week, which Paul preached on, falls on our Saturday night. It was the first day of the Hebrew calendar, but it was at the same time as what we call Saturday night
There's no deception. It's not rocket science
It's actually really simple, unless you vehemently deny what the scriptures plainly state, which I don't
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As far as we know, the earliest ethnically Jewish Christians never ceased to keep much of the Law of Moses, and these ethnic Jews who kept the Law seem to have continued as a community called "Nazarenes" by Gentile Christians.
As to where these Nazarenes went, many theorize that most Nazarenes gradually became absorbed into surrounding Gentile Churches in parts of the Middle East. Others may have survived for longer times as distinct communities.
But while these ethnically Jewish Christians certainly seemed to keep Mosaic Law, there's no evidence that Gentile Christians en mass ever felt compelled to do so. We have to understand, the NT is a deeply Jewish Book. References to synagogue visits or prayers in the Temple may reflect more on the behavior of the disciples, rather than contemporary commands.
But it seems clear from the NT that the earliest Christians, Jewish and Gentile, counted holiness, works, repentance, love, prayer, fasting, chastity where valid, and simplicity of living to be vital and essential. And a natural, necessary part of how they were to live out and reflect their faith in Christ, this Jewish Man whose tomb was empty.
Trying to prove that the earliest Christians were Kosher Jews who felt completely at home praising God in the Temple is kind of granted, imo. But using this to try to extend Mosaic mitzvot like a blanket over our modern, Gentile and even Jewish lives in Christ is a stretch.
As to where these Nazarenes went, many theorize that most Nazarenes gradually became absorbed into surrounding Gentile Churches in parts of the Middle East. Others may have survived for longer times as distinct communities.
But while these ethnically Jewish Christians certainly seemed to keep Mosaic Law, there's no evidence that Gentile Christians en mass ever felt compelled to do so. We have to understand, the NT is a deeply Jewish Book. References to synagogue visits or prayers in the Temple may reflect more on the behavior of the disciples, rather than contemporary commands.
But it seems clear from the NT that the earliest Christians, Jewish and Gentile, counted holiness, works, repentance, love, prayer, fasting, chastity where valid, and simplicity of living to be vital and essential. And a natural, necessary part of how they were to live out and reflect their faith in Christ, this Jewish Man whose tomb was empty.
Trying to prove that the earliest Christians were Kosher Jews who felt completely at home praising God in the Temple is kind of granted, imo. But using this to try to extend Mosaic mitzvot like a blanket over our modern, Gentile and even Jewish lives in Christ is a stretch.
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Granted.
Simplicity in following Jesus , remaining blameless, living holy lives, not sinning,
doing what is right no matter what, never harming anyone (be harmless as doves),
having totally changed lives (from pagans and from the life before being born again),
are
hallmarks, signs, indications(vital ones), testimonies of YHWH'S PEOPLE no matter where they are on earth, no matter what country, church, community or culture they were brought up in or live in.
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I agree that we shouldn't cook. We should not cook, clean, seek our own pleasure, make purchases & sell on the Sabbath
you're getting pretty legalistic here, especially since you teach people not to keep the Sabbath
Since God never mentioned electrify, air conditioning, and refrigerators, how are these things forbidden? Should we freeze, or burn up, or let food go to waste? Remember, the whole point of Sabbath is for MAN to rest, and devote a whole day to God.
We can't stop the mail... if mail or packages come, they come.. we can try to avoid having packages and stuff arrive on sabbath, however.. how do I stop the mail man from doing his job?
What if we get blood/feces/vomit etc on our hands on the sabbath? Can we not wash our hands and use running water?
Why would using running water be forbidden? Do you really think God is this legalistic?
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I apologize to the op this question may be a little of topic but I really need to know.
Why is it that you are so anti-sabbath? What has the Shabbat ever done to you? We are hear teaching and discussing keeping Gods commandments, we are not teaching men to commit Idolatry, sexual immorality or something like that. I am just curious why you are so against taking Gods Holy day off to spend with Him and rest from our labors?
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Well, for those that have much land it is easier. As it is good to put some up, nor does God oppose that, by the way.
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You can rely on God while still taking care of yourself. Suppose the breadwinner of a household is laid off. Well, he/she can have faith that God will provide that does not mean he or she should not look for other employment. Nor does God providing mean that we do not put up for a rainy day/manage our resources well.
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Well, depending on how they defined night it may be ( or at least go into Sunday morning).
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They may have BEEN there does not mean that that is where they gathered for THEIR Sabbath.
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That was under the LAW as it related to keeping things PURE we are not under the law but under grace.
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Does it say that WE must get together on Saturday. There is a difference. If they met on a particular day of the week out of conveience then that is good. Hebrews says that we should not forsake the gathering of the saints as some are in the habit of doing. That does not give a day of the week. In fact, ACTS says they met daily.
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Well, electricity was not around back then to be used. At least not that people had learned how to make use of it; that happened centueies of years later in the late 19th or early 20th century.
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