Calvinism, explained.

ToBeLoved said:

If all have been made alive in Christ why are not all Christians?

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Being made alive in Christ means that we have the ability to respond to God's grace. Jesus stands at the door and knocks.

Not all men respond to grace.

sdowney717 said:

Simply that there is no other name available for men to be saved. Does not imply a universal salvation. And yes, people go to hell for their sins, they die in their sins if they do not believe that Christ is HE. (God, etc..)
Acts 4
11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

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You are the one bringing up universal salvation. I don't believe in universal salvation.

Deal with scripture and get rid of your man made dogma.

Thursday said:

Being made alive in Christ means that we have the ability to respond to God's grace. Jesus stands at the door and knocks.

Not all men respond to grace.

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That's not my understanding.

Do you have Bible verses?

ToBeLoved said:

That's not my understanding.

Do you have Bible verses?

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1 Cor 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

John 12:32
"And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

1 Tim 4:10
To this end we labor and strive, because we have set our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

1 Peter 4:17
17For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?18AND IF IT IS WITH DIFFICULTY THAT THE RIGHTEOUS IS SAVED, WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE GODLESS MAN AND THE SINNER?

Luke 12:47
47"And that slave who knew his master's will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes,48but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

GillDouglas said:

Then tell me how exactly does a sin-ridden enemy of God with no desire or ability to know Him become obedient?

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Psalm 110.3: 'My people shall be made willing in the day of his power.'

faroukfarouk said:

Psalm 110.3: 'My people shall be made willing in the day of his power.'

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When is that day?

ToBeLoved said:

When is that day?

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There is 1) the eschatological answer and aspect (which might vary depending on ppl's views)

and 2) the moral and spiritual aspect of the exercise of God's sovereignty.

The Christ of Arminianism - offers salvation to every sinner and does all
in his power to bring them to salvation. His offer and work are often
frustrated, for many refuse to come.

Calvinism, explained,
The Christ of the Bible - effectually calls to Himself only the elect and
sovereignly brings them to salvation. Not one of them will be lost. (Isa.
55:11, John 5:21, John 6:37-40, John 10:25-30, John 17:2, Phil. 2:13)

Thursday said:

In Adam, all die. In Christ, all will be made alive.

Clear enough, unless your dogma forces you to twist the words.

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He never designed to redeem all! Christ came to redeem the ELECT, chosen by God.
(Eph. 1:4;7) He died for the church (Acts 20:28; Eph. 5:25) and His sheep (John
10:15). The gospel is offered to all, and anyone if they accept will be saved,
but no one will except, and that is why there is an election.

GillDouglas said:

Says the Catholic...

You diminish God in power and ability by your understanding.

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I do no such thing.

You deny that God has the power to give man free will.

tulipbee said:

He never designed to redeem all! Christ came to redeem the ELECT, chosen by God.
(Eph. 1:4;7) He died for the church (Acts 20:28; Eph. 5:25) and His sheep (John
10:15). The gospel is offered to all, and anyone if they accept will be saved,
but no one will except, and that is why there is an election.

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Anyone who chooses to accept Jesus will be saved.

He wants all, but some are unwilling.

Luke 13:34
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling.

Thursday said:

Wrong.

A man must respond to this grace. Just because a man is made alive you can't assume he will go on living. Sin leads to death. Sin destroys faith.

Jesus wants us to pick up our cross AND follow him.

The bible is quite clear. Your dogma is not clear.

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Not dogma, just the simple truth of God's Word. i notice you only dealt with one statement I made, which was the logical conclusion of your wrong statement. You conveniently (for you) ignored the rest of my post wherein I clearly showed why you were wrong. Will you address that as well instead of cherry-picking what you will and won't respond to?

nobdysfool said:

Not dogma, just the simple truth of god's Word. i notice you only dealt with one statement I made, which was the logical conclusion of your wrong statement. You conveniently (for you) ignored the rest of my post wherein I clearly showed why you were wrong. Will you address that as well instead of cherry-picking what you will and won't respond to?

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I quoted scripture, you ignored it and posted man made dogma.

Tell me, does a man reap what he sows?

Thursday said:

I quoted scripture, you ignored it and posted man made dogma.

Tell me, does a man reap what he sows?

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I quoted scripture, as well. Obviously you missed that.

Your other question is a non-sequitor.

nobdysfool said:

I quoted scripture, as well. Obviously you missed that.

Your other question is a non-sequitor.

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It is relevant if you claim to be a bible believing Christian.

Gal 6:7,8
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

What does the bible teach us?

Does a man reap what God sows, or does God allows us to reap what we sow?

GillDouglas said:

I have made no mention of men's ability to choose and how these choices are perfectly in line with what God has already preordained, but you can assume what you must to win your argument.

You deny that God has power to save anyone since anyone (potentially everyone) could resist His grace. You deny that God has ANY authority of His domain. You place limit on God, and give power to men.

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No one did that. How dramatic you are talking now. Putting words in people's mouths that are not true

Thursday said:

It is relevant if you claim to be a bible believing Christian.

Gal 6:7,8
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

What does the bible teach us?

Does a man reap what God sows, or does God allows us to reap what we sow?

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I most certainly reap what God has sown! I benefit from Christ's completed work on the cross, not from my own efforts. God is NOT mocked by God's sovereign mercy, for God's purposes.

The proof texts you used cannot be reconciled with the rest of Scripture if you use Arminianist thought.

The Arminians theorize that God wasn't sure
if He would change His mind about who is
Elect, so the Lord had to atone for everybody
as sort of a contingency plan !